SulaymanF @ SulaymanF @lemmy.world

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So you want to argue in bad faith.

It’s fine to debate the idea that Gaza should not be the most important issue this election, but if your plan is to troll people and do fallacious debate then you’re not helping anyone. If you want to sell out Palestinians for personal gain, just be honest about it.

It’s not fine. It’s such a privilege on your part to claim that the status quo is lovely. I’ve been to funerals for people who had their relatives die in Gaza. It’s tearing apart the community watching bodies of Gazan children on social media and Harris saying she wouldn’t have changed a thing.

If Harris wants my vote she should at least try the bare minimum to get it. Her campaign wouldn’t let Palestinians endorse her at the DNC. Her entire message to our community is; we make no promises at all but Trump is worse. That’s no comfort to those in my community who had relatives die in bombings by US-supplied weapons. “Trump didn’t kill my relatives. Biden did.”

Why is Harris so bad at this outreach? All she has to do is make some bland comments and it would win more people over, and she can’t even do that because she thinks being a hardliner against our community will win over a few Republican votes. Clinton tried that in 2016 and it failed.

Frankly no. Oppression like this is worse than slaughter. There’s a reason Gazans are telling reporters and social media they are relieved when their loved ones die, because they’re literally starving and in pain and squalor.

“It could be a lot worse” is ZERO comfort to my neighbor who lost relatives in Israel’s bombings. Do you honestly think that’s a winning campaign slogan to get him to vote for her? Or to me who personally sees this suffering?

And you have privilege to say your issues overrule actual human lives. What’s another 50,000 dead Palestinians to you?

Personally I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night voting for someone who had a hand in that mountain of dead children, but you seem fine to ignore atrocities committed in your name.

Don’t blame me, blame Harris for being unwilling to even say something on the issue without walking it back. Nobody is stopping her.

Politicians view it as an endorsement. When they get elected they say “the people have spoken” and act like they have a mandate. Bush pressed on with his Iraq war and privatizing social security after getting re elected despite those being unpopular and people voting for him in spite of those policies. Trump claimed the people supported him and hence wouldn’t release his tax records etc.

If Harris wins she won’t feel chastised on Gaza. She said she will continue Biden’s plan even though she was given space to say what she would do differently. Even saying something mild like “Knowing what I know now, I would not have said what Biden said about Palestinians lying about death counts,” and it would have mollified many people.

They were firing rockets into the Shebaa farms, which Israel acknowledged is not part of Israel. Israel started doing airstrikes into Lebanon and then Hizbullah retaliated.

There previously were scams that invoked Bill Gates’ name, but I guess crypto made it much easier, especially since anyone can watch Musk gush on about crypto on YouTube, thus validating the ideas for the gullible.

Because I don’t follow the ins and outs of local news or local politics. If the journalists following the school board controversies on a daily basis have a better opinion on who should be on the school board or county judge role, I will trust them.

The headline was stupid and it doesn’t match the article. The article was not nearly as categorical, And said that the points in the speech are red meat for his base but likely to turn off undecided voters

Bold move to throw that insult in a city with the highest concentration of Puerto Ricans in the country (and also vote Republican).

Did the UN official not make that statement? Is there another way to interpret it? What distortion do you allege here?

Or are you just killing the messenger?

They’ll move those goalposts. “We killed everyone in Gaza by having them starve to death but we spared West Bank!”

“We didn’t massacre the Arabs who have Israeli citizenship!”

“We just deported every Arab from Israel and all territory we control, but we didn’t kill them!”

And no political consequences.

In fact it’s anti-Semitic to investigate or charge these war crimes.

Netanyahu himself said that Iran needs an Amalek solution. That’s genocidal by definition.

Oh the calendar? Man that must have been embarrassing.

Remember when Israel claimed that there was a multi-story Hamas command center under the Al-Shifa hospital, even sharing an animated rendering of it, and Biden said he believed it “no question in my mind?” The Israelis destroyed the hospital and found nothing but bragged that they found proof in the form of a gun in one of the rooms.

Biden blocked it and told us it would interfere with his ceasefire deal that was just days away. But that was months ago and turns out to have been another lie.

Some are pro genocide. The politicians who said in interviews that they support dropping WMDs onto Gaza certainly are. The rest are smart enough not to say it out loud and instead are genocide deniers. How is that any better?