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  • Ahh, so you admit your statement was incorrect.

    Never said otherwise. Given how you're making up every argument instead of actually reading mine, you really don't need me here, you can just continue arguing with yourself. Have fun!

    So, now your claim is that violent murderers should be put in prison for long periods… which is redundant.

    This has always been my claim.

    By putting them in prison until you personally decide they aren’t violent anymore?

    Nope, until/if they're actually not violent anymore.

    I fail to see how that’s any different to what were currently doing?

    Well, we're letting them out way too early. Like this case proves.

    Ahh, so we’re walking back our claim now…how many times have you had to do that now?

    Exactly 0 times. It's just you can't read and understand simple arguments, so you think they're changing.

    Lol and your version of the law is?

    Sylvester Stallone in the 1995 movie 'Judge Dredd'.

  • But weren’t we talking about violent criminals? I think your shifting your goal post there…

    Yep, but there's a difference in the level of violence between punch somebody and murdering somebody. You’re just being pedantic now.

    So you’re against putting people in prison forever, but you also want people locked away for an indiscriminately long time? Sounds like you don’t know what you want…

    Not really. I want people who are violent to not have the chance to hurt innocent people again.

    But a bar fight is a violent assault. You can’t have it both ways, you’re talking about laws, not vibes.

    I can have it both way, by having different punishments for someone who punched somebody and for someone who stabbed somebody to death in cold blood. I see this is a difficult concept to you.

    Ahh, so it has to be violent rape? But, it can’t just be violence, or just rape?

    Nope, it can be rape, violent rape, or violence.

    You’re just being pedantic now.

    I'm talking about laws, not vibes.

  • And a man who gets in a drunken bar fight is not being violent or doing a crime?

    I think there's an ever so slight difference between punching someone in a bar fight, and murdering someone in cold blood.

    When I asked if a drunk bar fight should land you in a jail cell forever, You said no.

    Yep, because you shouldn't go to jail forever.

    Long time != forever.

    So we established that it’s not the assault, as a bar fight involves criminally assaulting someone… so your argument hinges on rape alone?

    Nope, it also hinges on violent assault too. We didn't establish anything, you misread my comment and decided to go off of your own wrong interpretation.

    So it is of your opinion that any woman who accuses a man of ignoring consent he should be jailed indefinitely?

    Has the man been convicted of violent rape? Yes? Then yes!

  • Okay so you don’t want all violent criminals to go to jail for long periods… just this one?

    I do want violent criminals to go to jail for a long time.

    Can you point out where I stated otherwise?

    How do you tell a bad guy, from a real bad guy…?

    The fact that they rape and assault people usually helps in identifying them.

  • What's your alternative? Are we just throwing anybody who gets in a bar fight in prison for the rest of their lives?

    No, but how about we don't let the violent rapist, who diddn't even serve 2/3 of his sentence and who clearly hasn't been reformed out into society?