Stumblinbear @ Stumblinbear @pawb.social

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Do you even know what the IRS is doing here? They aren't punishing anyone. This is them literally making sure people pay the proper taxes on the profit.

Why would the IRS be doing that

Do you even know what the IRS is doing here? If an individual makes more than 600 in profit on anything they have to report it and pay taxes. If you lower that to 60 that would just be incredibly annoying for the majority of people to deal with on a daily basis

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Half the time I do that I get fucked by their completely non-existent support or return policies

I see it more as the left consistently being horseshit at coming up with slogans. If you have to put an asterisk on it then find a better one

You can disagree with the organization while agreeing with the idea

Performance of a web app in this day and age is negligible.

Hard disagree.

The vertical real estate is a non-starter argument.

Hard disagree. You lose much of the top and bottom of the screen to useless information, and different browsers do different things with them when you start scrolling which easily causes jank in some relatively common use cases.

This is why web standards exist.

Too bad it makes no difference and there are still differences in how browsers function. Just yesterday I discovered an issue in Firefox where overflow: hidden is required to get certain things sized properly in position: absolute properly even though it shouldn't change how things are sized. iOS also often deviates from the norm.

As far as browsers are concerned, standards exist to be broken.

If you can't deal with this gracefully then your app flow needs to be redesigned.

It currently CAN deal with it gracefully because we've specifically built it to be able to handle it properly. It doesn't change that we've wasted many man-hours and tracked down numerous bugs for something that should not even be a problem in the first place. It also ended up significantly less readable and puts a higher barrier to understanding the codebase itself. We spend more hours putting up annoying safeguards for things that shouldn't be a problem than we do making new features.

You need a new job. It sounds like you're both under paid and over worked.

I'm not underpaid in any sense of the term and I'm not over worked. I just absolutely despise everything about the web dev and specifically JavaScript ecosystem, and the absolute distain towards writing anything performant at even the slightest expense of developer experience. I'm tired of the memory hog and leak prevalent garbage web apps that exist literally everywhere.

You need to invest in automation testing.

Too bad that's not my decision. The architect is actively against automated browser testing because it runs too slowly. Even then it wouldn't resolve the actual issue.

so why am I seeing ads

I fully agree with you on that front. If you've bought and paid for a product and the app is required to use kt, then the dev-required support for the app should be baked into the product rather than relying on subscriptions or ads.

They have their place but for most things a web app will do just fine.

Yes I absolutely love that I can have a total of four web apps open before my browser slows to a crawl due to excessive garbage collection for these shitty react apps that are forced to clone the universe every 2.7 nanoseconds. I adore my computer's lack of ability to have any amount of ram available that's not dedicated to Firefox or whatever shitty chrome reskin you decide to use. They start slow as shit due to 50MB bundles, have shitty caching, error every other day, and don't feel at all like an actual mobile experience because desktop and mobile navigation are fundamentally different experiences which often requires supporting two separate versions of the layout anyways in order to have an "okay" experience. And even if you can miraculously ignore all of that or do some dirty JavaScript war crimes to make it less of an issue, then half the gestures you normally do either end up hard refreshing the page or forcibly send you to the last page in the browser instead of just opening the fucking navigation drawer. Don't even get me started on electron.

Web dev is shit, chrome is trash, Firefox is barely better, and all we've successfully managed to do in two decades of browser and frontend framework development is centralize the web further, prevent any other browser from ever being created due to the absolutely ridiculous feature-set barrier to entry, turn browsers themselves into the kitchen sink with the entire house around it as well, and create a new shitty framework every other year that does the exact same thing with the exact same pitfalls because they still don't fix the fundamental stain on the world that is JavaScript.

I'll take a normal app over a web app any day of the week. I've never used a web app on my phone that was in any way better than the mobile counterpart. Even if they effectively look exactly the same. Not a single time had the web app been any better.

They also said "everything" in the title multiple times.

Progressive web apps don't work for shit on ios. Why bother developing it for Android users only when you'll need an alternative regardless?

I'm going to proide an opposing viewpoint: apps will always have a more native feel, have better performance, have more capabilities, and have entirely different goals compared to web apps.

• You don't need an app to do data harvesting.
• Users have very different expectations for websites and mobile apps. They look different, they feel different, they function different, and the UX is very different.
• Performance performance performance. Html/css/JavaScript/browsers/whatever are incapable of competing against 60-120fps natively written apps. That sidebar drawer navigation can NEVER feel native in a browser because swiping from the left to open it either works, but takes a second to open, or forced you to go back to the last page.
• The additional vertical real-estate cannot be understated.
• It is a lot more effort to deal with differing browser behavior on the web. Adding mobile experience into that is even more annoying. Developers work on a desktop and will forget about mobile devices at literally every possible moment.
• You have zero control and a user can leave at a moment's notice even in the middle of critical flows. In an app, you can quick store this information away or continue it in the background. On desktop, you have zero chance to react to it since the browser will destroy-the-world the moment the user wants to go away, which leads to a ton of defensive programming, more chances for errors, and lower performance overall. Death by a thousand cuts.

I'm a developer, if you hadn't been able to tell. I am responsible for mobile responsivity on the website and it's a massive goddamn pain in my ass every waking hour of the day, and fixing it definitively is impossible with the actively hostile browser landscape leading to whack-a-mole bugfixing that needs to be done. I also point to my previous point of "devs forget about mobile constantly." I'm tired. Don't even get me started on the fixes for one browser breaking literally every other browser, leading to complete refactors of layout being necessary. This has happened more than a few times in the last year alone.

I'm actively pushing for a mobile app because we have complete end-to-end control of the experience. If something works, it just works, and it won't be broken on a random Friday or Sunday when google or apple decides to push an update to their shitty fucking browser that breaks half of the site with less than zero notice. iOS is especially fucking terrible in this regard. Every single update to safari brings horrendously breaking changes that fuck my life up.

Playing to the higher-ups by enticing them with top-of-mind awareness and having a place on their homepage is a means to an end. I want my life to not be shitty fucking web dev. When something works, I just want it to work and not require checking against every single browser in existence dated back seven years because people don't update.

So not "everyone else." Got it.

I wasn't trying to "get" anyone. It's genuine curiosity. Christ, dude. Send your toxic-ass Reddit attitude back to that shitty platform it belongs.

Slur? That's not a slur. Fuck outta here with that

There will always be a market for the "real thing"

You've tracked them, but that doesn't mean you've followed up at every second of every day to see if the company still exists.

"Everyone else" is absolutely not correct. Realistically barely a fraction of people know how to do it and even less bother.

I just got banned from Reddit for "promoting violence" because I said a meme should die. jfc

As an American that as been to Alabama and also Coventry, I agree

Also the ring road is an absolute death trap. I've never felt more unsafe on a road

I literally said "as far as we understand the term." We as humans and as we define the term. They do not have consciousness based on what we currently know, and there's very little evidence that they do based on what experiments we are able to conduct. I'm not saying they unequivocally don't, all I'm saying is as we currently understand the term they do not.