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  • The gates are tied to the cameras. They do motion tracking and gait recognition (but they swear they don't do facerec) to track you through the store, and attempt to recognise whether you've made a payment. If the system determines you haven't, they don't open.

  • Dunno about the legalities but I have had this happen. Walked in to check if they had a product. They didn't, so I left. Gates decided "Nope, fuck you. Spend some money, pleb." Staff member saw and swiped me out tho, total non issue.

    I figure they malfunction often enough that it isn't a big deal for them to do that.

  • It's been a while, and like I said, I haven't done proper analysis (that would probably be another three or four days work at this rate) but from memory soylent is a lot closer to an actual meal (at least an attempt at a complete protein, a reasonable amount of carbs, essential fatty acids, a wider variety of micronutrients) even before you add whatever liquid you're using. Total is just fortified wheat flakes, sugar, honey and salt. Pragmatically, if you absolutely had to subsist on one of them, I'd say soylent is probably the less-bad option, but I wouldn't recommend either.

  • Plenty. I have actually tried soylent. Before I got into nutrition properly though and I haven't done any kind of thorough analysis on them. In my personal experience they're .. fine? .. flavour wise pretty bland and neutral, better if you blend them with some fruit or something. The sensation after having one was pretty weird though. Like, you've just taken in a ton of nutrition, but you don't feel "full" -- just kind of not hungry. It's also a lot of liquid that hangs around in your stomach for longer than it feels like a liquid should.

    Nutrition wise, off the top of my head, I don't think they're a bad idea, at least conceptually. Lifestyle wise they're a pretty good solution to the "no time / skill to cook a decent meal" problem that a lot of people run into. They're also good for those "need to eat but don't want anything" moments. I'd hesitate to have them for every meal because IIRC they do lack a couple things (fibre, maybe?) but once or twice a week shouldn't be a massive deal.

    I'd have to do a ton more work to break down the actual nutrition, value for money and any other possible knock-on effects though. Off the top of my head there might be long-term issues with digestion and possibly oral health, but that's just a guess.

  • Oh boy, this is my field! Let me go do some math and I'll get back to you in a couple hours.

    EDIT: This is probably going to take a day or two. There's a hell of a lot to break down here.

    EDIT 2: This is an absolute fucker of a problem. Normally I'd just throw this into FoodWorks, but my academic access got yoinked (uni didn't pay the license fees) so I've had to math it all out by hand. There may be mistakes. Since people are asking, I'll put up what I have in this thread, but I'm not finished. Macronutrient balance and amino acids are still to come.

    Disclaimers: I'm not from the States, so the RDIs I have might be slightly different, but probably not by much (except for folate). There are also a -lot- of interactions between nutrients that affect bioavailability, any one of which could be the subject of several research papers. I tend to get obsessive about these things but I refuse to go on that deep a dive because I'll literally never stop.

    I'm also not a dietician, I'm a nutrition postgrad. Some of this stuff falls more into dietician / biochemist territory which gets outside my expertise a bit.