Stoneykins [any] @ Stoneykins @mander.xyz

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Honestly with how fast threads, brand new, was able to jump into this compared to the growth of mastodon, I'm convinced the only thing that can convince most people to stop using a corperate bloated social media site from hell is a new, slightly less bloated (so far) corperate social media site from hell.

Twitter won't die all the way until we have something else we want to die

Trump is gunna die of a heart attack the day before he gets convicted and no one is gunna know how to feel about it.

And they have the audacity to claim it is an issue of "making labels too confusing for consumers".

They could always fold fees into the overall price, but that would be counterproductive to their real goal: lying about the price in advertising.

To be clear they just blocked the piracy community, it isn't a full defederation from dbzer0

Lemmy.world has a rule against illegal content. This troll was trolling and got mad at dbzer0 for banning them. The troll then demanded the admins of lemmy.world defed from dbzer0 because piracy is illegal, and they blocked this and several other piracy communities at the troll's request.

No I've never peaked my whole life is shitty and unnoteworthy.

Those two things are contradictory, I'm not wrong for asking what that meant.

Apparently the answer is "anything you dislike at all"

yeah he caused huge arguments in the biggest instance, the guy is talented.

Too bad that "talent" is being a huge asshole and getting the biggest reactions possible, instead of something useful.

the lemmy.world admins specifically fell for it, since they did block this community.

I disagree that it doesn't matter, even if it is less relevant to lemmy.world's course of action.

many people in this thread are making moral arguments against piracy, and most of the people doing so are just appealing to the authority of the law.

but if you really want to have a discussion about the risk to lemmy.world, there wasn't any yet. the piracy community also disallowed sharing direct links to files, and even in the event that lemmy.world had received a DMCA, that would have been the moment to do something about it, they aren't liable for just hosting content unless they ignore one of those. acting like they are going to get singled out and have the servers shut down and raided because they might have a cache of some person's comments from a different website where someone might have posted direct links to illegal files is a massive overreaction. This whole thing was set off by a troll that was mad that they got banned from https://lemmy.dbzer0.com for being transphobic and tried to tattle on the group like a toddler, not because of any implication that the risks were about to change.

not that anyone but the admin's opinions matter in this case, it is their server. they could do anything at all and it wouldn't matter to me regardless of it's legality or risk. Doesn't change that I'm not fan of large corporations or the people that bend over backwards for them, out of fear or any reason.

As @JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works said, if you don't get to take home free dumpster food, presumably you would have to buy fresher food.

And it isn't hypothetical, large grocery stores are IMMINENTLY worried about this and will call the police on people going through their dumpsters, or they will pour toxic chemicals on the food to render it inedible, or any number of fucked up ways to ensure waste.

I accept this an argument for the utility of the internet or collective knowledge (whatever you want to call it) as a historical/anthropological/psychological/etc tool, but to use this as an argument against the morality of privacy is a huge stretch.

It would be hugely beneficial to the field of medicine if we just tested on people for whatever needed researched without concern for their wellbeing or rights, but that doesn't mean it can be used as an argument against personal wellbeing or personal rights

But it seems like you mostly argued this point to see if you could, so whatever

This is nonsense. They already weren't making enough money and needed to strike to try and meet their needs.

And you are implying there is a fair distribution of the revenue earned from popularly pirated media? Bullshit.

Writers and actors have always received chump change or less, and never has it ever been implied that they recieve any payment based on sales, but rather work done.

If you find me any company that garuntees that all actors and writers receive fair extra pay based on sales, then I will swear on my life to never pirate anything from them, and buy the content (if it's something I want).

Defederated from another popular instance, not shut down.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy is still there, just not viewable through your instance where your account is.

Archiving digital media is making backups and copies. That is what archiving those things is intrinsically, immutably.

Making backups and copies is also what the IP owners would refer to as piracy.

You cannot be pro-internet-archive and anti-piracy at the same time, at least not fully. They are contradictory positions.

So are you morally opposed to all the crap disney has done to ruin the public domain for entire generations?

That seems worse than pirating a disney movie to me.

"all theft is wrong" nah.

If the starving guy from your example stole food from jeff bezos to survive then that is morally correct theft.

When it comes to the legality of most things hosted on websites, that is how it works. The legality of piracy is different, for no reason.

Too many people in this thread are basically saying "discussing/assisting with piracy is illegal, move on" while having no opinion whatsoever on whether or not that is a just law. They just base their morality on what is legal and I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO SAY WHY THAT CAN BE PROBLEMATIC.

"open discussion" "derailing responses"

What?

The issue with lemmy.one is that it appears the admin has lost interest in doing anything at all with it. The person who started it hasn't been online for months, and when the server has issues no one resolves them or even notices.

I'm surprised it ever even came back up after it got broken for so long.

And now the account that redirected all of lemmy.world has been banned from lemmy.world for ban evasion.

This whole thing is weird

My answer depends. Are you a troll, or just an asshole?

I don't have to be beholden to your opinions just because you feel strongly about my behavior. Why don't you go bother people who advocate for harmful policy and law instead of trying to tone police people that probably roughly agree with you already?