Not really in my experience. I can tell when something is disliked by how few upvotes it recieves. Instead of bad posts sitting at the bottom with -20 votes, they sit at the bottom with 1 vote. Functionally the same.
Youtube removing the dislike button was more about their attempt to obfuscate public opinion on things like movie trailers, game trailers, and the various videos related to big PR decisions by companies. The companies posting these things wanted a hosting place where only positive interactions are allowed, regardless of the topic in question, and youtube accommodated them.
It is still infinitly possible to distinguish bad videos from good ones without a dislike button on youtube. But it is much more difficult now to find out how many people agree with you that a video is bad, which used to be nice to know on things like movie trailers, game trailers, and big PR decisions.
Still no downvotes. Just because some apps can show the downvotes from the api doesn't mean they are federated.
For the record, downvote me. Please. I don't care. I like not having a downvote because it doesn't allow me to downvote other people. It helps keep me in a better headspace.
I don't see how that addresses any of what I said. If anything this seems like this would mean the subreddits that blocked people with no karma weren't even doing it to block trolls, just new users.
I didn't care about my karma or any specific persons, I like to get into arguments about stuff and that is how you get downvoted. I just don't like the behaviour a karma system motivated.
I hadn't thought about it until just now but IDK if that number is accurate. My instance doesn't have downvotes, so if you view my profile from lemmy.one it might look like I have a higher karma than if you look from lemmy.world, I'm not sure.
If you downvote my comments they do not register on my instance. It is more than the lack of a visible button, the downvotes do not federate.
Edit: to be clear, this post is on lemmy.world, so I can be downvoted here (even though I won't see it unless I browse from lemmy.world). And from lemmy.world you can appear to downvote things on instances without downvotes, but you are basically just downvoting the local copy of the thing. The downvote never gets sent through, it just lives on your instance.
There were many subreddits that did not allow participation unless someone had a karma over a certain threshold. For many of them the threshold was pretty low, only meant to stop brand new accounts and trolls, but still.
Additionally, the "people who farmed it" often did so because a reddit account with a high karma score was literally worth money to adspammers and people running bots.
The karma system contributed to what made reddit bad.
I believe the devs have said they aren't going to make it officially visible, which is all I care about. If you want to make value judgements on people based on a number so bad that you had to find a client that shows it, more power to you.
Yes? I don't think I've ever heard the vote totals on individual posts and comments referred to as "Karma", just upvotes and downvotes. In my experience Karma is exclusively used to describe the total on peoples profiles. "Karma farming" is increasing that number by posting lots of different low effort posts, not when someone posts something because they think that one post will get many upvotes, as an example.
They are talking about karma as a thing you could collect, point totals for all posts added together displayed on your profile. Not the voting mechanism itself.
We are both arguing what we each think should happen. It just so happens that in this disagreement, what I think should happen is for things to not change.
I get the appeal of somehow turning a larger more active community that is similar to what you want into explicitly what you want, but that doesn't consider how that effects the majority of people who joined and are part of that community because it is already explicitly what they want. The majority of the demand for political news on lemmy is for US politics.
If there was somehow a way to throttle the US politics so it didn't flood out everything else, then the bulk of the community would just find another place that wasn't doing that.
All that can reasonably be done is be patient, for communities to grow and stabilize, until there are active groups available for each specific interest
That one might be filled with US stuff because many of it's users are from the US, but there is no rule requiring everything be related to US politics, which seems to be the rule people wanted changed here. Even if they changed that rule here, this place would still have been 90% US politics because that is what the community that grew here wanted.
It has only existed for a month and based on all evidence has always been for just US politics. Are you sure you haven't confused it with another politics group on lemmy? Like !politics@lemmy.ml?
Idk why people want to change communities to be what they want them to be instead of seeking out or making the communities they want elsewhere. Anyone can have the politics name on any other instance, unlike how reddit was.
If you don't think of it as a mistake, simply an inconsequential detail, it makes perfect sense to retain it as a form of identity, so people that switched platforms can feel like they moved as a group.
I wasn't putting words in your mouth, you are acting like they have somehow done something incorrectly, but that would imply there is a correct way, which would imply rules for how to do it, official, unspoken, whatever idc.
Anyone can make their own group on a different instance and call it the same thing. If you don't like how lemmy.world works, don't take it out on the mods here, either find another instance, start one yourself, or if you have to, take it up with a lemmy.world admin
You already said the youtube thing.
Upvoting posts that are relevant or good quality and ignoring the rest does work though. There are several instances right now where it is working.
It works perfectly fine as a content curation method. I have no way to prove this for this, but it wouldn't surprise me if it works better.