We don't have to like realpolitiking to understand its historical necessity, nor do we have to demonize China for realpolitiking while recognizing its bastardization of the truth.
The truth is that Kissinger was a genocidal piece of shit. Throwing our hands up and praising the PRC for this would be infantile and opportunistic.
Waiting for the DPRK/KCNA to release a statement. Even facing encirclement, they've refused to bow ideologically. They refuse to recognize the settler-project of Israel, they refuse to refrain from speaking truth regarding the ceaseless crimes of transatlantic empire. They still, somehow, maintain one of the fastest growing economies in the world.
It's all rhetoric, the PRC is doing the smart thing. Whatever. It isn't like us dissing them for political Ls like this is going to change anything. Pretending like they're doing the utterly correct thing sans any criticism at all is an entirely different matter.
Undoubtedly, in a just world, Kissinger's name would be resigned to the dustbin of history, and he would be considered on par with the likes of other genocidal maniacs. He would not be considered an "old friend" by the leader of the largest socialist nation on Earth, publicly nor privately -- in a just world. We do not live in a just world. It's fucking fine to criticize the PRC's leadership for this.
I believe it says far more about your own reading comprehension skills if you can't tell us - human beings sick and tired of Empire apologia - apart from the usually incomprehensible shit salad that language models currently like to present as coherent.
Maybe if you actually read more, you'd be able to discern the difference. 🤷♂️
Another thing, notice the reaction of Muslim countries to the actual genocide being perpetrated by Israel. They are firmly condemning it through all channels. In contrast, the policies of de-radicalization by the Chinese were unanimously well-received by Muslim countries.
Very generous of you to assume that many of these folk believe Muslims and Arabs are human beings capable of forming their own opinions and international policy. The opinions of actual Muslims are similarly handwaved akin to any communist's opinion.
These states' international defense of China's de-radicalization program is stated to merely be because they are money-hungry opportunists, buddying up with China while ignoring a politically and economically inconvenient genocide. 🙄 How... adaptable this narrative is.
The seemingly unending wave of videos of Uyghurs in China recording themselves in their homes and making it clear they are not undergoing genocide have to be ignored. In fact, they have to be deleted by the platforms hosting them. How utterly immune to facts this narrative is.
If these countries care about Palestine, oh... I don't know. Russia is making them care. Iran, maybe? Maybe North Korea or China are forcing these Muslims to hate Israel. Who else are we being directed to hate right now? Afghanistan? Just throw a dart at the "Axis of Evil" board and pick an "uncivilized" nation. It's their fault. Why not?
unwilling to even engage with the idea that Russia seeks to eliminate Ukrainian identity
Camarada Forte did engage with this argument. The person who created this supposed dossier dictating Russia's desire to destroy the Ukrainian identity has no direct link to the Russian government.
You need evidence we can engage with. We cannot meaningfully engage with empty platitudes.
Meanwhile you will turn yourself in circles to defend Russian aggression
Do you know what was going on in eastern Ukraine, beginning in 2014? Pretty similar to what's going on in Gaza right now. Hint: it was not Russian artillery leveling homes, schools, and hospitals.
But then somehow I’m the brainwashed goon for actually attempting to maintain something resembling ideological consistency.
Awfully defensive there, bud. Speaking of ad hominem. 🙄
Wild how much footage is coming out of Gaza right now showing an actual ongoing genocide, yet Zionists and their water-carriers will harp on and on about how Israel is merely defending itself.
Nothing of the sort from Xinjiang. At all.
I'd like to see ONE verifiable image or video depicting this supposed Uyghur genocide we're denying. ONE. Apparently it's one of the worst human atrocities occuring right now. One of the worst in HISTORY.
So... show me a single picture. Fetish porn doesn't count. Where are the dead bodies? Where are these supposed mass graves?
Love to break it to ya, they don't fucking exist and they never did. You've been lied to.
Remember the constant liberal equivocating between one non-lethal punch and fascists literally running people over with trucks? Good times, good times.
Reminiscent of a child's stone-throw demanding a retaliatory missile strike. "Both sides need to stop resorting to violence!"
Unrelenting death to the eternal occupier and its water-carriers. Punch harder next time, comrades. They won't hold theirs.
I guess Stalin's corpse was responsible for the crushing of the Hungarian revolt. Khruschev was a good little anti-Stalinist, the bravest of the USSR's leadership in fact!
I don't quite feel like subjecting myself to the text itself (I'm on a workbreak, I'll probably remember later and source it), but I'm almost certain Trotsky thought Afrikan-Amerikans spoke a different language lol.
IIRC he was asked if black Amerikans constituted their own nation and deserved support in their self-determination thereof.
Ah, nevermind. Here we are. Top ten Trotsky quote.
Fair enough for a Soviet politician not to know every facet of Amerikan race issues, I suppose. Still... I can't deny how silly this is, and knowing this little probably should have prevented him from speaking on the issue at all.
I don't doubt it and I believe ya, I just wanted more info. I'm not a fan of market reforms in the ideal, but I can, to an extent, understand their historical necessity for China & Vietnam.
addendum:
These estimates indicate that from 1981 to 1990, when most of China’s socialist provisioning systems were still in place, the country’s extreme poverty rate was on average only 5.6 per cent.
Moreover, extreme poverty in China increased during the capitalist reforms of the 1990s, reaching a peak of 68 per cent, as privatisation inflated the prices of essential goods and thus deflated the incomes of the working classes.
Can't really fault people for thinking the PRC really did take the "capitalist road", holy shit. If it weren't for their major successes as of recent, I'd still think the same.
I've found it difficult to find sources specifically detailing the poverty rate pre-Deng and post-Deng. Income inequality undoubtedly increased under Deng (par for the course for market reforms, unfortunately), but I don't think that's a relevant measure when considering what "extreme poverty" is (deprivation of basic human necessities like food, water, and shelter - intentional or incidental).
If you have sources, I'd appreciate it. I can't find anything detailing the poverty rate prior to 1980.
Begging for money. I work 40 hours a week. Cheapest rent out of anyone I know. 5x5 cell of an apartment. I get paid weekly. I get $100 in food stamps a month.
Somehow, still -30USD in the hole and still hungry. Having 1/3 of my monthly paycheck go towards simply existing is fucking nuts, especially when we're expected to pay for laundry, electric, gas (both domestic and vehicular), internet, phone bill, health insurance, car insurance, union dues, loan repayment, hospital and doctor bills, what THE FUCK!!!
I'm amazed anyone survives this shithole. I have respect for anyone who makes it here without trampling everyone around them underfoot.
They won't, though. We won't. We're the ones who "fall through the cracks". The MILLIONS.
We don't have to like realpolitiking to understand its historical necessity, nor do we have to demonize China for realpolitiking while recognizing its bastardization of the truth.
The truth is that Kissinger was a genocidal piece of shit. Throwing our hands up and praising the PRC for this would be infantile and opportunistic.
Waiting for the DPRK/KCNA to release a statement. Even facing encirclement, they've refused to bow ideologically. They refuse to recognize the settler-project of Israel, they refuse to refrain from speaking truth regarding the ceaseless crimes of transatlantic empire. They still, somehow, maintain one of the fastest growing economies in the world.
It's all rhetoric, the PRC is doing the smart thing. Whatever. It isn't like us dissing them for political Ls like this is going to change anything. Pretending like they're doing the utterly correct thing sans any criticism at all is an entirely different matter.
Undoubtedly, in a just world, Kissinger's name would be resigned to the dustbin of history, and he would be considered on par with the likes of other genocidal maniacs. He would not be considered an "old friend" by the leader of the largest socialist nation on Earth, publicly nor privately -- in a just world. We do not live in a just world. It's fucking fine to criticize the PRC's leadership for this.