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So, I pretty clearly said:

“I’m done with this discussion.”

Now… for my own edification, could you point to what part of that you’re having difficulty understanding? I’d like to know for future reference how to be more clear to people that wish to rewrite my statements and simultaneously think I won’t notice

It’s insulting.

Enjoy it while you can.

I am still confident that they would go to china and/or Russia. I’m just not foolish enough to base an entire argument on something that I hold a strong opinion on. It was an EXAMPLE of what makes it complicated.

Israel is hell-bent on this. If the US backs out, someone else will fill in that gap. This is experts saying this. This is THEIR concern. I just happen to agree with it. Unless you’re part of an administration that works in geopolitics and international diplomacy, back off the armchair simplification of it all.

And before you think to call me out for refusing to answer- know that I have explained myself time after time ALL FUCKING MORNING to everyone that has challenged my statements.

Yet… Not a single one of you have explained a plan that illustrates how easy it is to just break the agreement. And the few that tried- failed to issue any statement on how to deal with the repercussions of breaking those agreements.

This is how it is here. Put people on the defensive, so you never have to own your own points. Because when challenged to explain their side with logic, the left has nothing.

Now I’m done with this discussion. I’ve been on the ropes the entire time, and even after explanation after explanation- you’re all still coming at me to define my stance.

I have. Thoroughly.

I didn’t say there weren’t. And I’m not about to have you move the goalposts like you all LOVE to do so much here so that you can reconstruct my argument into something you can accuse of genocide apologia.

I do NOT support the atrocities in the Israel/Palestine conflict. Nor am I saying that the genocide being committed is complicated- which is the straw man you’re trying to construct on my behalf, I DO however, understand that the INVOLVEMENT OF THE US is VERY complicated and nuanced- which is something you all ignore in favor of your need to outrage one another, and the far rights need to exploit this fact about you.

We’re done now. It’s too risky to discuss this with you.

See!?! It's just so simple everyone! A random person says so!

You’re free to find irony in whatever makes you happy.

So because someone doesn’t have all the answers to a hypothetical question, it’s full steam ahead with whatever the hive mind thinks should happen despite their ignorance on the topic?

I’m on the side with the leading experts that suggest that it’s not an easy thing to do, and it isn’t simplified just because it’s the right thing to do. You’re on the side of fellow internet randoms that disagree with the experts.

They audacity to accuse someone of living in a make believe world while simultaneously thinking that ending decades-long trade agreements is easy.

And what’s up with the name calling man? Don’t you know that that’s taken as conceding the argument? You’re not going to give up this early, are you?

Neat. A Wikipedia article that is irrelevant to the topic and… truthout.

LOL! You should stick to the edgelord memes. They’re far more relevant.

I don’t get to make that assumption. The point you’re missing here is that it’s COMPLICATED. I gave a simple example of what might stall the “simple” decision to do as the leftists think would be so easy. (Bad auto-correct decision here, hope it fixed before read)

They’ve come up with zero ideas or concepts of how it can be done, but my feet are held to the fire to illustrate why it’s complicated?

That’s where we are now.

Armchair geopolitical edgelords on the internet get to claim simplicity in ending trade policies, whereas someone who suggest it isn’t that easy is held to the task to explain it to people that are just going to brush it off with ad hominem attacks nay say.

I’m done dude. I said what I felt needed be said. I’m not here to change kids as that’s fucking impossible. I knew this before I started and did it anyway.

You cannot reason with a leftist.

I’m just going to point and laugh from now on like everyone else does.

Gotta love the far leftists edgelord meme responses. Everyone knows that this is you admitting you have no argument by the way.

And thanks! I take these as a badge of honor! I’m collecting them!

Towing and toeing are both in the autocorrect library.

Just admit you didn’t know the difference.

(See, since you decided to troll me with ad hominem attacks and abandon the topic of discussion, this is what you should expect to happen. Make be sure your shit smells like roses before you comment on the shit of others)

Mmmkay?

I really think they’d go to someone, and negotiates would ensue. I can’t predict the outcome because I’m not an idiot that makes assumptions.

And again, I am not the one making these decisions. I’m simply offering an example of how it would be incredibly difficult to just simply- stop.

Which is more than anyone that’s countering the argument.

“It’s so easy! Just stop sending weapons! Break a trade agreement! No consequences at all because Israel is so well know as a nice and understanding nation!”

Man… I’m really done wasting my time trying to explain simple concepts to far leftists. What a fucking waste of time.

I knew this was pointless to get into. I knew it as I was doing it. But someone has to be the common sense counter to the rhetoric.

I said my part in this. I’m not going to debate you on it.

So… you’re done here. Thanks for playing.

Still waiting for your argument here that doesn’t involve insults.

Come on now. You can do this.

Oh, and it’s “toeing” the line. Maybe fix that before you decide to smart-ass the next person make this mistake again.

No, you hit nothing but a blatant accusation of someone which clearly breaks the rules. If I have to follow them, so do you.

Again with the false accusations. That’s a clear indicator that you have no argument.

So… those experts weren’t American. They were from the UK and Denmark.

Try again bud.