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  • The way I saw it, it felt like they were saying that starfleet command is corrupted and using S31 as a way to get things done no matter how illegal they can be. Which is why when getting caught they would deny down to the existence of it all.

    But that's my interpretation, I admit.

  • I'm not exactly religious, quite the contrary.

    My ethics and morals are based on what I try to make a good ideal: not liking discriminations, authoritarianism, objectification of people, that kind of stuff. If you want to put me in a box, "leftist" would probably be more accurate than "religious".

    I understand perfectly well that a show can give a million different messages based on the interpretation. But there are still many things that, if not objective, can be said with a good degree of confidence. What I criticised is not about shows not demonstrating a perfect world where nothing is wrong, but about them showing immoral (according to my previous paragraph) things in a positive light.

    My motivation is simple: Star trek started as a show questioning the world and the notions of bad and good, working almost at a philosophical level (which is the point of science fiction), and it doesn't seem to be the case anymore. What I try to do is to question what the recent shows contain, and to create some awareness on the reasons that lead me to believe there are many moral issues in them.

    And yes, there are many opinions. But one will have to hold very, very strong arguments before I admit that it is morally acceptable to not be inclusive, to objectify people, to tolerate fascism, etc.

    If you want to call it trolling to easily dismiss it, fine. The point is to try to make people think more (and not just react to gut feelings) if they are open to it, if they're not they're not going to ever agree with me anyway, that's the magic of cultural bubbles.

  • Some things were like that. There was also Sisko using bioweapons for a personal vendetta, Odo not fitting in and constantly trying to go with the changelings who are a group of fascist racist violent manipulators, etc.

    I'm pointing out the problems that for me are important whether or not other parts are not as bad, or even good. DS9 had good surprises, for example the evolution of Rom and Nog.

  • It was still unknown whether it was Stafleet, or starfleet individuals supporting it illegally. From Discovery, for example, everyone seems to know about S31, and official starfleet processes go through S31 as a rule, making it part of the starfleet structure and not just an illegal (even if supported) group

  • Sure, I'll explain what I meant.

    With Odo and Kira, Odo spent years wanting to be with Kira and making her uncomfortable; when she finally accepts, he hurries up, cheats on her and then abandon her forever. Not very nice.

    Dax basically manipulated worf into being with her by waiting for him to be psychologically weak before having sex with him despite his complete lack of interest. Klingon rules then make him "forced" to stay with her, and most if not all of their relationship shows Dax not respecting Worf and constantly forcing things on him, cheating on him with a random naked dude before their wedding, forcing him to go to Risa against his will and then being mad at him for not enjoying it, etc.

    And then Ezri convinces him they can be together, and breaks up because "I saw bashir in a dream so goodbye".

    Finally for Sisko and Kassidy were actually a good, relatively well written couple with challenges.. Until Sisko hears the prophets tell him to not marry her, he does it anyway, gets her pregnant because he doesn't get his shot, and when the prophets tell him to go with them, instead of telling them to fuck off he stays with them and gives up on his pregnant wife. And on top of that, he implies that he could talk to her but probably won't, or in a few decades or whatever.

  • Who are the haters, and what do they prefer? I mean, if you try to just filter shows based on obvious racism/sexism/homophobia, you already end up most shows apart from Voyager, so...

  • Encryption is generally "open source" and that's what makes is strong. Security does not come from people not knowing how things work, but by having properly designed things that work whether people know how they work or not.