My father and his side of the family are big Trumpers and they all sound like this. We also have a small Trump group where I live that demonstrates weekly and they make these guys sound smart.
It's purely anecdotal, but I actually have yet to find a Trump supporter who doesn't sound like this because, to be a Trump supporter, you pretty much have to think like this.
It is pretty funny watching them try to form a cogent argument
Conservative parties in general are for the fraction of the population that never grew up and live in constant fear of change and "the other". They're a short-sighted, ill-informed plague on society. Some conservative political groups are worse (Likud party) than others (US Republican party), but they're just varying grades of garbage people.
Oh yeah. Netanyahu absolutely supported Hamas as he actively worked to prevent peace talks from succeeding. They helped ratchet up the divisiveness he saw as essential for maintaining his political power and as an excuse to subjugate the Palestinian people.
Yep, here are articles. As to the motivation for war, it absolutely has antisemitic elements, but I was never disputing or even discussing that. I'm simply refuting the commonly spread propaganda that the Palestinians are somehow ungrateful refugees looking to take the Israeli's land. It's pretty well the other way around.
That's the biggest pile of regurgitated Israeli propaganda I've seen yet. People existed in the Palestine area before the beginnings of the formation of Israel. Said formation was largely begun by the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine, which resulted in waves of Jewish immigrants into Palestine. Israel was officially created in 1948 by the Israeli Declaration of Independence.
So, to simplify it - Palestinians lived in Palestine. The United Nations declared support for a Jewish "national home" in Palestine, a place already occupied by Palestinians. Lots of settlers moved to the area and began to displace Palestinians, causing tensions between the two groups. Israel declared its Independence in 1948. Supported by the United Nations, Israel continued to displace Palestinians and expand the borders of Israel, evicting Palestinians from their homes to be replaced by Israeli settlers. Rinse and repeat for nearly eighty years, interspersed with Israel playing the victim and acting surprised their continued genocide of the Palestinians has resulted in the formation of terrorist groups.
Their point whizzed right by your head and your being a condescending ass makes it even better. Take your own advice... or is reading comprehension hard for you?
Looking at their post history, I can't figure out if they're a troll, a propagandist, or are really just that stupid. I suppose it can be some combination of two or all three.
The Israeli government has been waiting for an excuse to do this for years. Finally, they'll get the land and homes of all the people who were there before them and the Western world will largely support them. It's disgusting.
"Hey, we took a bunch of your land and we have repeatedly violated our previous agreements not to take more, but hey, take this shitty land in return for a bunch of concessions from your side. We promise that this time we won't violate our agreement. Promise!"
Another paraphrase:
You're one of two brothers. Shortly after your father's death, your brother gains access to your elderly father's bank account and plunders it. You take them to court to seek justice, but the judge is a friend of your sister-in-law. Despite the evidence being overwhelmingly in your favor, the judge rules against you. You appeal to a higher court and the case is pending. Your brother approaches you and offers you 10% of the money but you must sign away your rights to inherit any more of the money and the rest of the estate.
It's just wild: if you change the context of the narrative, almost any reasonable person would say one party is absolutely the aggressor, but a bunch of propagandists like you have pushed an alternative narrative that the no-critical-thinking crowd eats right up.
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I too love completely irrelevant whataboutisms.