SlothMama @ SlothMama @lemmy.world

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This is the second relaunch that I remember then, because I think AOL bought it? I remember when it was changed, but I used to use an open source WinAMP on Linux that you could use the old skins with.

It's a strange world when Disney and Apple are actually doing the right thing.

Not a single one. Maybe it's a setting? I've been using Connect for three weeks now, zero pornography has come across my feed.

Cool, but definitely not my experience growing up. You could get those prices sometimes at Wal-Mart but CDa would be edited or censored, and I grew up in an area where there were no standalone CD or Record stores, so all I saw and had access to was mall stores like Camelot Music, FYE, or Sam Goody.

The prices I'm referencing were 100% accurate for my time of reference, which was the bulk of the nineties.

Only towards the end, like literal turn of the century late 1999 into 2000 did things actually start to change.

I promise this is true.

I've not seen anything pornographic at all, but I've been exclusively using Connect for Lemmy. My feed is basically all memes and news, oh and people complaining about Reddit.

I don't even feel like that's strange, I had lots of cassettes and a casette player in my car until 2015 or so

I really do mean culture independent of technology though, the entire range of acceptable opinions now versus then is completely unrecognizable, and in many ways my entire thought process and range of ideas are foreign to then as well.

My point is that my experience in my life, to now, across two decades, was drastically different. People still didn't bring a laptop to the community college I went to that year either, I had never seen or heard of it as a practice until later.

I returned back to school about five years later and laptops in classes was common.

We somehow seem to have had drastically different experiences she perspectives from a broadly large geographic region.

For additional perspective my typing class in 1999 used an actual typewriter, not a computer, so socioeconomic factors of my own high school experience and the area I grew up may have actually been that different and potentially atypical to even surrounding areas, it's hard to tell.

I was in high school in the nineties and no one had a laptop in class, then when I went into community college, things like online classes were a novelty, with a handful of offerings and a large computer lab because most people didn't have Internet access at home, so you would do your online work there, or at home and bring it to school to upload on a floppy disk.

This was my regional reality, southeast US, but was very much the experience of tens of thousands up until the period of time, 2003, that you're referring to.

Up until then it was only rich people that had Internet access at home, and most of the people I knew would often lose their lights and phones from their parents not being able to pay for utilities.

Some of my experience is skewed towards poverty because that was the social circle I had, but I still never had the impression that the masses actually had Internet or even laptops at home. Most people did have an offline computer, usually five to eight years old though.

Completely disagree, but if you haven't been around for at least a couple of sets of twenty years I can see why you would think this.

Someone else gave a great set of things that were different, but really, twenty years ago was almost completely different in nearly every dimension of life I can remember.

In 2003 not only was gay marriage not legal, gay sex and relationships were illegal where I live, and was punishable by prison time.

In 2003 most of the country wasn't online, pagers were more common than cell phones, and 3DFX VooDoo graphics cards were still a thing.

In 2003 I used to smoke inside my community college's cafeteria, where people ate because it was the designated smoking area.

In 2003 minimum wage was $5.15 nationwide, and gas was just a little over a dollar.

In 2003 people didn't use laptops in school and electronics were confiscated on site, sometimes teachers would 'lose' them and you never got it back, and somehow that was an expected outcome - I lost a laser pointer that way.

In 2003 casual homophobia was mainstream, all your friends, and probably you would be making gay jokes, and transphobia was not a concept. I thought transgender people were the same thing as intersex, I didn't know gender transition was possible.

American society was post 9/11 and highly patriotic, even liberal people were unusually patriotic, and politics were probably the most 'neutral' that I've ever seen, it was nothing like they are now, but in general things trended towards cultural conservatism.

I remember being an outcast because I didn't believe in God, and people would casually tell me I was going to go to Hell.

Nah, 20 years is an entirely different cultural paradigm.

Completely disagree, but if you haven't been around for at least a couple of sets of twenty years I can see why you would think this.

Someone else gave a great set of things that were different, but really, twenty years ago was almost completely different in nearly every dimension of life I can remember.

In 2003 not only was gay marriage not legal, gay sex and relationships were illegal where I live, and was punishable by prison time.

In 2003 most of the country wasn't online, pagers were more common than cell phones, and 3DFX VooDoo graphics cards were still a thing.

In 2003 I used to smoke inside my community college's cafeteria, where people ate because it was the designated smoking area.

In 2003 minimum wage was $5.15 nationwide, and gas was just a little over a dollar.

In 2003 people didn't use laptops in school and electronics were confiscated on site, sometimes teachers would 'lose' them and you never got it back, and somehow that was an expected outcome - I lost a laser pointer that way.

In 2003 casual homophobia was mainstream, all your friends, and probably you would be making gay jokes, and transphobia was not a concept. I thought transgender people were the same thing as intersex, I didn't know gender transition was possible.

American society was post 9/11 and highly patriotic, even liberal people were unusually patriotic, and politics were probably the most 'neutral' that I've ever seen, it was nothing like they are now, but in general things trended towards cultural conservatism.

I remember being an outcast because I didn't believe in God, and people would casually tell me I was going to go to Hell.

Nah, 20 years is an entirely different cultural paradigm.

1999 CDs were typically $20 - $30 so it was actually worse. This was what you would pay at a Sam Goody, Camelot Music, FYE etc.

It wasn't until a few years later that CD prices were cheaper. You could go to Wal-Mart and get cheaper prices, but you would be buying censored or edited albums.

I remember the Wal-Mart release of Eminem's second album was missing the entire song of Kim for example, just completely replaced.

I think a lot of people who post about the nineties weren't spending their own money or something, because I remember how pricey music was, and cherished each CD.

I still have some of my CDs from the nineties.

So I am advocating for boring news because news shouldn't be entertainment. I can't stand this idea that information exchange has to be entertaining, that's the sign of a very sick society IMHO.

It should be straight up fact. X happened at Y time, Z people involved.

I don't agree with this. I tend to be a free speech absolutist, but if it's called news, it should only be facts, never opinions, never an agenda. I think the term news should be a criteria that if not met, can't legally be called news.

Just like we have truth in ingredients for food, we need the same for information. Everything else is fine and open, but you should not be allowed to intentionally manipulate and misinform under the guise of education