Denuvo wants to convince you its DRM isn’t “evil”
SlamDrag @ SlamDrag @beehaw.org Posts 5Comments 34Joined 2 yr. ago
You know these are valid concerns, and I have two thoughts about this. The first is that I don't understand how this doesn't also apply to Steam or Epic Games or any other basic storefront (except GOG of course). I see a lot of headlines about Denuvo but none about Steam. People seem to selectively apply their hate in this matter.
The second thought that I have is that I agree that this is a problem, but I don't see any other way around it. This is just the trade off of getting AAA games. These are big, complex pieces of IP that require millions to hundreds of millions of dollars of investment that the company making them has to recoup. To ensure that you actually get paid, you have to have DRM. Companies wouldn't shell out the millions of dollars on DRM unless it was proven to actually work. As I see it, if you like AAA games you just gotta weigh the cost on a game by game basis.
Malicious software that harms your computer’s performance and security, and prevents you from inspecting and modifying the application, is evil.
This is fearmongering. What is always left out of these conversations is exactly how Denuvo is a security risk, which is a tech question of this particular software and not a philosophical one. And I'll be frank with you, I think people vastly overstate how much of a problem Denuvo is as a piece of software.
But the way performance is framed by anti-Denuvo folks is that it is linearly correlated with enjoyment. This is not so. What I care about (and I will definitely give that this is subjective and depends on the individual) is that a game runs at 4k/60 on my computer at low/mid settings. If it runs faster than that, my enjoyment of the game isn't increased. If it runs worse than that, my enjoyment is decreased.
So if the game passes that bar with DRM, it doesn't matter to me if it would be faster without DRM. If DRM is the thing that causes the game to go below that bar, then I have a problem with DRM. But that is almost never the case.
Yes, and you have to weigh the loss of performance and/or privacy on a case by case basis. What bothers me is that people take cases where DRM strongly impacts the experience of the thing, and apply it as a general argument against DRM, when that is not an argument against DRM, but an argument against using that particular piece of software.
I'm kind of tired of DRM headlines in my feed. Whether a game has Denuvo or not doesn't actually matter when purchasing a game. What matters is this: is the game fun? Does the game pass the bar of acceptable performance? Discussions around DRM are mostly a distraction and a diversion from things that actually matter.
It's not evil. DRM as a concept is not evil. There is actually no real philosophical justification for why it is wrong to use DRM to protect your software. Because if you made it, it is yours and you get to decide how other people use it.
The paranoia that surrounds things like DRM show just how laughably selfish and entitled some gamers are.
I actually think the best solution for a space like Beehaw is to just turn off the creation of new accounts for the time being. The point of this instance isn't to be the biggest, it's to be a high quality space. People will still be able to interact with Beehaw from the outside too.
So what I’m hearing you say here is: “If smart people believe in magic sky fairy, magic sky fairy must be logical to believe in,” which is about the level of discourse I’d expect from someone unfamiliar with the concept of critical thinking. Thanks for being an object lesson.
This is such a bad reading of the comment that I can only imagine you're acting in bad faith. You have made the assumption that reason will inevitably lead people to the same conclusions about the world, but that is not true, and that is what the OP is bringing up. How is it that many people, when presented with the same sets of facts, and using the same reasonable principles, can come to differing conclusions? This question should keep you up at night, but instead it seems you're only interested in saying "those other people are dumb, I am smart."
In terms of real harm to the rock, both permanent anchors and removable protection don't do much damage. It's mostly the aesthetics of permanent anchors being kind of ugly.
What is more damaging is the increased traffic to an area once it is bolted. Having to bring your own gear, and take it down afterwards becomes a barrier to entry that keeps wilderness low traffic. If you bolt a wilderness area, you can do things like make it permit only, but at the same time climbers are often known to just not get permits and climb anyways :). Then there is also the question of who's job it becomes to inspect and maintain the bolts. Ultimately, bolts only make sense in areas that are already high traffic, where park rangers are highly involved and safety is a real concern. In my mind, the only reason to bolt wilderness is to turn it into non-wilderness. That's maybe too pessimistic of an outlook, but it's the only way I can read this.
Do you make an effort to go back through your ideas and evaluate which ones you want to expand? Or does it happen more organically in some way?
Everyone is already giving the generic advice of do hobbies or volunteer. This is good advice! That's how you meet people. But the transition from "hobby" friend to "life" friend is difficult and frankly just awkward. It's kind of like romantic relationships, there isn't a right or wrong way. You just got to take leaps of faith and be vulnerable with people with the expectation that rejection is possible.
I'm still kind of navigating this phase. I have some good friends that I do my hobbies with, and then it's like, how do I go from there? Really it's just about being open and hospitable towards others. Opening your home and inviting people in, asking people if they want to come over for dinner or watch a movie with you.
I like all of them but the first. I am fairly sure that I understand what he's getting at, that very often religious dogma is used to shut down curiosity. But factually speaking both philosophy and theology start with axioms, oftentimes the same axioms. The history of all philosophy, west and east, is deeply intertwined with theology and scientific inquiry. Up until the 1600s religious life, mysticism, intellectual life, and science were considered to all be essential to each other in most cultures.
Building and distributing an OS is no small feat, this is amazing! But also, I couldn't quite get a sense from the website of why this exists. What purpose does this serve that say, Arch, OpenSUSE, Fedora or PopOS don't already?
"The World Doesn't End" by Charles Simic
"Deaf Republic" by Ilya Kaminsky
"Catalogue of Unabashed Gratitude" by Ross Gay
"Words for Empty and Words for Full" by Bob Hicok
"Life on Mars" by Tracy K. Smith
Those are books that have personally influenced me deeply. Other poets I like but haven't read deeply are Rainer Maria Rilke, T.S. Elliot, Wendel Berry, W.H. Auden.
Because you didn't make it. I'll grant that western ideas about intellectual property are weird and inconsistent, but I'm taking it as a given that we hold that idea in common. If a writer writes something, that sequence of words in the order they wrote is their "property" and they get to determine who gets to see it.
I am cognizant that in this kind of space a lot of people probably won't hold this view of intellectual property and there are good arguments as to why it shouldn't exist at all. I suppose at this moment I'm not really in the mood to go down this rabbit hole, so forgive me if that is where you want to go.