SkippingRelax @ SkippingRelax @lemmy.world

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What does MS say when you report these to them? Is it always the same bug still unfixed or separate issues? Nothing is infallible with software, but note that in ops case autosave was disabled so no mystery "autosave lost my document", it was just disabled.

And ffs autosave is just a timer that saves the document every x minutes the same way a user would do if they pressed save. I do believe you get many issues reported to you, but I doubt Microsoft autosave is so buggy to cause an unbelievable amount of data loss in a single institution (and I love to shit on MS).

What is wrong whit your computer and why do you say that others should press ctrl-s five times like we were practising magic? Report a bug with the software that you use if it doesnt work, or replace your keyboard

Furthermore, if the laptop randomly reboots for no reason, autosave won't save you. You just need a tiny bit of bad luck for the computer to crash while saving, corrupting the perfectly-good file saved to disk.

Hardly how file saving works. Else you could say the same about a bit of bad luck for the computer to crash while pressing ctrl-s, corrupting the perfectly-good file saved on disk.

Too many people on this thread seem to see autosave and ctrl-s as two different things, governed by magic and mystery, one of them indispensable to conside nyourself an experienced computer user. It's the same fucking piece of code, in one case invoked by a timer, in the other one by the end user pressing a key combo.

Op's issue was that automated was disabled by default. Obviously autosave doesn't work it it's disabled.

Why do you trust ctrl-s though? You are a software engineer, you know that a bug in the piece of code that saves the document would affect both calls, regardless of whether its invoked by a timer or by the end user pressing keys, right?

I mean we have all been bitten by op's problem In the past but it was exactly the same issue, autosave not enabled (most likely didn't exist) what's with all these, I don't trust software to do it's job so I do things by hand?

Particularly from software developers or other technical users. Found a bug in a piece of software, report it, you don't need to change your behaviour for the next 20 years and tell everyone anecdotes about you still don't trust a regression.

Is that because of bugs, or shitty software that you don't trust autosave? Isn't it likely that ctrl-s is affected by the same problem and regardless of how compulsively you press the combo, it does in fact nothing?

Note that OPs instance simply had autosave disabled, not really a trust issue

What you have here is another case of Linux users jumping to defend the only things they have to defend, even if it’s absolute shit.

Funny how OP is using libreoffice on Windows though, what's there Linux-related to defend? Did a Linux user hurt you? If anything this is another opportunity for some snarky comment about Windows being shit and crashing for no reason since the 1990s.

Are you implying that the average user doesn't know how to install an app? My 80 yo parents do that on their samsung tablet.

No need to trust any higher authorities, whatever that means

Is that your biggest concern about a tech company? Id be happy for marketing departments to he shut down and the money redirected to make better/cheaper products.

While Google sucks now and has for a while, in their early days they have demonstrated that marketing is not all it takes to make innovative, successful products.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, Apple obsession with marketing has created fanboys that spend the night queuing up to be the first to get the latest iPhone, and that don't question the technology or ethics (or anything) behind the flashing toy that they crave. Good for the executives and the shareholder but as a customer?

Can't speak for Japan but for Italy an easy way to deal with shrinking population is by allowing more immigration. The one thing the current government is against, and the populace has been conditioned to believe is the main problem causing all sort of issues. Particularly by facilitating an influx of skilled workers, you have from day one taxpayers that can fund your pensions, and that didn't cost you a euro for the first 18 years orbso of their lives (education, health care etc). Of course it's not that trivial as first they should create an attractive job market that makes skilled workers want to go there in the first place but other countries have successfully done that. I'm not counting on this to happen, just saying that it's an option

I think weeks start on monday everywhere except for one country..

Mate, I spend half my time on lemmy arguing with pro gun idiots that make the point that the guy above made but for real. Now it's not only idiot rednecks but also lefties that need to defend themselves from nazis or wathever someone was trying to convince me about the other day. Excuse me if it wasn't obvious to me that want sarcasm, from outside the US this whole situation is surreal

I know you weren't, which is even more frustraring because we want the same things and the only reason I'm engaging :)

Most of the rest of the western countries absolutely are oligarchies designed to maximise profits for a handful of people, some more than others, sometimes a good government happens for a cycle or two and then bad ones for a while. Doesn't mean people can't demand change and sometimes, not always, obtain it.

Don't be sorry, its all good I'll go to sleep knowing that it's pretty unlikely I'll get shot when out shopping, and if it happens my hospital fees are free. And while away from work, my employer keeps paying my wages because I'm on sick leave, which doesn't impact my holidays balance because PTO and sick leave are separate.

Unfortunately what worked everywhere else in the Western world for a vast amount of issues clearly can't work in the US because reasons. OK.

Mentioned her before in this thread,before we went down another rabbit hole of impossible / not realistic to change tour constitution. Wasn't my intention to discuss constitution amendments, we ended up there after I pointed out that discussions about tipping (and universal healthcare, gun control etc etc) always end up in someone bringing up some reasons why bUT that workeD everywhere eLSe oN thE PlaNet but It Can't worK Here becAuse blah blah.

I mentioned her not in relation to constitution amendments nor gun control (nor tipping, which ia where we started) just because she didn't make up excuses about, too hard, unrealistic all the other blah blah I keep hearing here about all the issues the US have

Anyone knows what the career path to become a workplace expert is?

You are right, maybe it's impossible to solve any problems, we should stop bothering. If only someone had told Rosa back then she probably wouldn't have wasted her time for nothing :)

Wrong Australia was able to get rid of guns because everyone was shocked about what happened with a mass shooting, had the right to bear firearms been enshrined in the constitution there would have been a discussion about making a change to it, hasn't the American constitution ever been amended? Any more reasons why changes can't happen there? You guys fucking overcame slavery and black people managed to get equal rights (I am sure a few naysayers in the sixties were sceptical about that). Give yourselves more credit

Got bad news for you

You forgot the /s right?

Got it, it sucks. Really 35 million people need to fight to abolish tips, and get this mess fixed including having minimum wage indexed to inflation or at least reviewed periodically and adjusted. We all love to bash the capitalist here and blame the employer, but really tha change needs to be demanded by the people affected, the workers, or it will never happen.