I'll be on ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com @ ShareMySims @sh.itjust.works

I guess the clue was in the name, I'm done with this shitty instance,

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No, no, don't you see? They're the real victim here!

"I have a marginalised sister who I want to support, but a generalised post on the internet that I took as a personal attack (if the shoe fits ¯(ツ)/¯ ) hurt my feelings by not prioritising them above her oppression and the oppression of those like her, and didn't make sure to centre me and praise me for my minimal empathy every step of the way, so now I'm not gonna! I'M tHe rEaL vIctiM hEre! sToP oPprEsSiNg mE!!!11" 🙄

You self identified allies just can't fucking help but out yourselves, can you?

This isn't about purity, but you tell yourself whatever you need to to avoid engaging in the mild discomfort of unlearning and challenging your privilege, existing bias, and the status quo, I guess.. ¯(ツ)/¯

Not if you miss the water

Step 1: learn how to do your own work instead of expecting (or even demanding) marginalised people expend our time, energy, and emotional labour doing it for you.

Centring yourself, talking over, and refusing to listen to the marginalised people whose side you claim to be on - the self identified ally personified!

Yes officer, this user right here..

Should he reject her just because you have prejudices against age gaps?

No, he should reject her because she's a child and he's a grown ass man.

he’s old enough

His age isn't the problem

The only reason grown ass men date children (laws on the age of consent were written by those same grown ass men, they don't dictate reality) is so they can have someone who hasn't yet learned how to recognise red flags to coerce and control. You don't need to actively encourage him to be sending him the message that you, at the very least, don't disapprove.

It's up to you to decide how comfortable you are with sending him that message, and act accordingly.

If someone feels like this post (or any other boundary set by the people they claim to want to support) is keeping them from being an ally, they never were one in the first place.

I appreciate that, thanks.

Can't argue with that lol

How about Slow and steady not at all with the "real estate race"? Sadly, we have been programmed to flip houses and chase immediate gains. see housing as a commodity and investment opportunity rather than the human right it is, and which it is wholly immoral to withhold for profit.

No, I really didn't, I made a mildly snarky remark pointing out the direct implication of their bullshit statement (E: and which, if you agree with everything I've said, I'm genuinely confused why you're getting defensive of), and I stand by it.

I'm sick and tired of people responding to problems we have because of very specific systems and a very small group of people with a condemnation of humanity as a whole (E: consciously or unconsciously, but very directly, helping our oppressors by shifting blame away from them), and I'm not going to be made out to be "abrasive" for calling it out for exactly what it is, nor the tone in which I do it in (which, lets be honest, was seriously fucking mild), policed.

If they don't like the implications of their statement, perhaps they should reconsider why they made it, and not make it again in the future if they don't want to be seen to be making those implications again. ¯(ツ)/¯

G R E Y

Wow, I was not expecting this tone policing bullshit from you.

But no - what is abrasive is saying "humanity sucks" in the face of marginalised people, who have no hand in our oppression, pointing out that oppression. Not calling out someone doing this.

The patriarchy sucks. Misogyny sucks. Capitalism sucks. Humanity, which includes all of the people oppressed by those and other structures created by and for the benefit of a tiny minority of people, who band together and fight for each other and our rights and survival, shouldn't be thrown under the bus because someone doesn't want to, for whatever reason, diferenciate humanity and social constructs imposed on it for profit and control.

Fuck this noise, it's like blaming climate change on "humanity" which puts billionaires who create as much CO2 in 90 minutes as the rest of us do in a lifetime, and, for example, Indigenous people who were genocided and their sustainable ways almost destroyed and continuously overlooked, on the same level of responsability.

All this is is the same old bullshit of blame shifting done by the privileged to deflect it from themselves.

What is abrasive is "all lives matter"-ing marginalised people.

In other words you see oppression, and the people fighting back against their oppression as equally shit.

Classy.

Yeah, because "all lives matter"-ing worked so well the first time around.. 🙄

I agree, but wouldn't hold my breath lol

Though I don't doubt at least a couple have already commented elsewhere on this thread, and are trying to hide their anti-feminism (aka misogyny) behind the thin veil of pretending it excludes them, and that we must refocus thousands of years of feminist struggle on to them and call it "egalitarianism" otherwise they have no reason to join our fight for equality (which they conveniently ignore means equality for everyone, which is why they need to make up excuses to reject it, because, going back to the meme I posted and why they downvote it - they don't want equality, they want to hold on to superiority at all costs, and their fragile egos don't like having that mirror held up to them).

(edit to add: and even if we give in and centre them and do call it egalitarianism, they won't actually want to fight with us to bring down the patriarchy, they'll just keep shifting the goalposts to make it more and more about freeing their poor souls from the imaginary oppression of feminism) .