Sarmyth @ Sarmyth @lemmy.world

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Ain't got a problem with Muslims. Got a problem with audibly praying while you're driving me. Just like I'd have a problem with you having an intimate personal phone call with me in the car.

I just think it's a dick move, and as already stated explicitly by me, they should not be pepper sprayed or attacked in any way. This is a "playing music out loud on a bus" level of annoyance.

I don't have to decide what is normal. I can experience what is normal. I don't get mad when people pray, I just don't like it done in front of me while I am trapped in a small space with them.

I think you are probably right but I always imagine it like wind in a sail. It's strong enough to push a ship but not rip the sail due to surface area. I can at least pretend that's the case. 😆

Explain. There is no xenophobia in my comment. Which "other" am I referring to? Lemmy trolls pearl clutching again. Get real.

Read my responses for the answer, pedant.

There is something abnormal about praying in a workplace. They shouldn't be attacked, but it's also not normal. I don't care what religion they're a part of, it would be strange regardless.

If that's their compulsion they can do it while not actively working. In between pickups etc. I personally find it obnoxiously pious to make others unwilling participants in your praying. A person's driver is in too intimate a setting to be doing stuff like that.

I wouldn't give a shit if they were a bus driver though because that's already a more public environment where I'm not expecting the driver to be talking to me if they are talking. (I also find it annoying when the driver is on the phone in an Uber for similar reasons). If they were being annoying I have the ability to move myself a little further out of earshot. In a private car, the only way to avoid it is to end the ride and find a new one, which would be incredibly inconvenient.

Making shit up online is fun. Strawman arguments don't convince anyone of anything though just makes you look like a tool.

Islam is the 2nd largest religion on Earth. It's not some piddly minority. When people are being weird Muslims it's okay to call them out the same way there are hella weird Christians and Jews. I would say NOT doing so and handling a particular groups weirdos with kids gloves is just as xenophobic (but obviously not as harmful) as attacking someone for being different.

You're basically saying they are less human than you and therefor should be excused from behaving normally in the society they are a part of, like they were a small child.

If it were silent prayer they wouldn't have known he was doing it unless his hands were off the wheel while driving, which would be concerning in its own right.

Randomly praying in private is fine. Praying on the job in the middle of the task you are paid for is fucking weird and bad. It's an Uber driver. Fares are very rarely over 30 minutes and probably more commonly less. Pray in between. There is no doctrine mandating it at such an interval that it would interfere with this work in a way that would require special allowances. IN FACT, there are special allowances within the religion that permit not adhering to the 5 prayer routine during acts of travel or when it could be deemed unsafe, all of which would apply to the act of driving.

Not when your car is your workplace. We've seen what happens when people are allowed to practice their religion however they please. Being 2 feet away from someone in a moving vehicle that you've paid for transportation in is not appropriate. We've learned the 1st amendment doesn't permit you to practice your religion under whatever circumstances you wish. ALSO the law should never be used as a barometer for right and wrong. We often hope it aligns but far too often we see it does not.

I already said it was wrong. Just because someone is a victim doesn't make their behavior also not wrong though. There's a time and a place for religious behavior.

Hmm bad Muslim then, as I'm lead to believe from all the Muslims friends I have. You specifically don't need to pray while traveling. Actively driving would obviously qualify.

Wait... your description doesn't include any praying either. Did he pray or not? It just looks like an attack.

It would make me uncomfortable if someone just started audibly praying while driving me though. Given the tone I might even take it as a threat on my life, if I felt like it was some "last rights" or "give me strength" shit that made me feel like they were about to off themselves with me in the car.

The solution would absolutely not be to pepper spray the driver though. That can only make my fears a reality.

Because when it's 1 country doing it to another it's both a war and a genocide. If it's a country doing it to their own citizens it's just a genocide. Pretty simple really. Isreal declared war.

Good im glad you see how foolish you were being.

LOL could you imagine if being from a country actually made you complicit in the actions of it's government? Edgelord child shit right here.

Extremists like yourself are exactly the type of people causing problems in the middle east. You just called for the deaths of Americans for voting.

I hope you live long enough to learn the error of your ways.

I didn't watch because it's a republican political rally but he usually talks shit about other white people in the form of self deprecating humor in the shorts that get passed through my algorithm, so ... maybe? It doesn't help matters much though if he did, and it wouldn't be on the same level as calling the whole island trash.

Usually racial comedy can be fun when it takes advantage of knowledge of the in crowd. Like you couldn't really know to make fun of something unless you yourself were a fan of it. Like there are fun ways to joke around about cultures you love. He wasn't doing that.

I'm still baffled by the logic of having a roaster/crowd work guy doing a set at a convention. Like... he was gonna insult people and start shit. It's literally his job.

He's not my cup of tea, but he's been around and successful for a while now. He's not an unknown entity who they could claim acted unpredictable.

I refuse to fix anything for my inlaws without them watching me. I make them watch me Google the solutions and follow the instructions. It helps reinforce the "it's not magic and I'm not a wizard" reality I want to instill in everyone.