SamuelRJankis @ SamuelRJankis @lemmy.world

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At 3:40 in the video of OP he states there are names in the unredacted report but "some names is not also there".

I think people are reading to much into how alarmed Singh is of the report vs May. As noted in the article there will be a public inquiry with the final report well before an expected election and they've made amendments to include concerns found in this report.

Justice Marie-Josée Hogue is currently leading the public inquiry into foreign interference and is expected to deliver a final report at the end of the year.

Earlier this week, the Liberals supported a Bloc Quebecois motion for the foreign interference commissioner’s mandate to include the report’s allegations – though whether or not it will be included in Hogue’s probe is ultimately up to her.

Yes, the number is 66.5% of households in 2021 is occupied by the owner. Any phrasing regarding people is a loose interpretation of the statistic.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/220921/mc-b001-eng.htm

Note(s): Proportion of all households that are owner occupied.

30% or 40% if you don’t include people who just live together with a homeowner. Honestly that doesn’t change the story much for the purpose of OP

I don't think there's many scenarios where 66.5% to 30-40% isn't a substantial difference.

65% of the Canadian population are homeowners

This is StatCan's explanation of the number you're referring to:

While people somewhat loosely use that number for home owners I believe it a highly inaccurate phrasing of the statistic. The statistic is owner-occupied homes.

It’s always the homeowner boogeyman when in reality the problem comes from the government spending money wherever and not applying strict foreign home purchasing laws that keep increasing home prices.

And they're the people who keep advocating for these governments. For the record I don't think you can find me ever saying that homeowners or even landlords are bad people just because of those characteristic, however it's clear our interests do not align.

pay their fair share of taxes

The fair portion is what's up for dispute right now.

Given the backstory behind why doctors structured their assets that way I think it's fair and also just makes a lot of the stupid talking points go away to give them a exemption. In itself I believe they should have just switched investment properties to income tax which would be a lot more politically digestible although Trudeau commented why he won't do that a few weeks ago.

Even disregarding political context, I think her straight forward answers with specific references to the report make it hard to dispute her findings.

Most of all I really appreciate her being the only Federal party leader will to constructively progress on this issue instead of circling around the topic ad nauseam as political theater. I believe this type of politics should do well.

Full 70 minute press conference for anyone into that sort of thing Elizabeth May shares her findings of NSICOP foreign interference report – June 11, 2024

https://infotel.ca/newsitem/guardians-of-humanity-training-in-kelowna-for-when-hell-breaks-loose/it103805

https://infotel.ca/newsitem/police-aware-of-paramilitary-guardians-of-humanity-not-working-with-them/it104329

As posted yesterday. At this point news outlets is purposely just churning a specific narrative.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-liberals-will-not-release-names-of-parliamentarians-accused-of/

The Public Safety Minister insisted that federal law prevents the government from releasing further information about the people at the centre of those allegations, and he urged party leaders to instead get their own classified briefings and said Canadians should have confidence that police can investigate and lay charges when warranted.

So far, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has declined to accept a briefing, saying it would muzzle him. Instead, he says the names should be released by the government.

Ultimately it is the current government saying no.

The rest the parties could easily pass a bill where NSICOP has full access to everything and if any of the members of found be using the information for political advantage they would be significantly prosecuted, but as usual I think this is more about theatrics then making things better.

Looking at the previous article about this that has more quotes: https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/liberal-government-blocking-over-1000-documents

I did find most of the quotes under the section "NSICOP’s access to relevant documents" of the actual National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians Annual Report 2023

For anyone looking at which part National Post decided to omit:

9. Despite this unprecedented access, obstacles remained in accessing all relevant information. Notwithstanding the four Cabinet documents, federal departments and agencies withheld or refused the disclosure of over a thousand documents, in whole or in part, on the basis that they were Cabinet confidences. Specifically, close to a quarter of these documents were withheld in their entirety. The Committee is concerned that some departments and agencies may be inappropriately using claims of Cabinet confidences to avoid disclosing information to the Committee.

10. The Committee was pleased to note that, further to its comment on this issue in its Annual Report 2022, the government has begun to identify which relevant documents are being withheld and on what basis, including claims of Cabinet confidence. This has allowed it to conclude that there are many such claims being exercised for each review. The Committee reiterates the comments made in its Special Report on the National Security and Intelligence Activities of Global Affairs Canada in asking the government to address this issue. It continues to state that while a legislative change to the definition of Cabinet confidence is desirable, in the near term, a clear statement of policy that NSICOP should be barred from receiving only core Cabinet secrets would go some way to addressing the issues being experienced. Specifically, such a statement could outline that information withheld from the Committee under section 14(a) of the NSICOP Act would be limited to that which is provided directly to Cabinet or ministers attending Cabinet committee meetings and which reveals options, Cabinet deliberations or discussions of these meetings.

Really the question would any of these other parties allowed unfettered access to all their document from National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians which does include opposition MP's.

I think the generational angle is substantially over stated. Sure on a average the older generation is much more likely to own but there plenty that's getting hit real hard with the inflation brought on by housing prices.

It's much more accurate to frame it as the government sacrificing the have nots for the haves. In which case there's no waiting it out as long as a substantial part of Canadian is convinced high housing prices is a good thing.

The Public Safety Minister insisted that federal law prevents the government from releasing further information about the people at the centre of those allegations, and he urged party leaders to instead get their own classified briefings and said Canadians should have confidence that police can investigate and lay charges when warranted.

As long as things are thoroughly investigated I'm good with just having the other parties have access to the information at the current time to make sure there's no favourism.

When Trudeau said he would keep housing prices high I wondered what his levers were.

Aside from lowering prime rates it would be:

• Increasing RRSP withdraws(HBP)
• Creating additional accounts just to pump money into housing(FHSA)
• Increasing amortization for uninsured mortgages
• Bring back programs like The First-Time Home Buyer Incentive to share equity in housing

I think people can read through these bio's of the BoC board and understand regardless of whom put these people in power their income and asset composition is quite different from the average Canadian.

https://www.bankofcanada.ca/about/board-of-directors/

The Board is composed of the Governor, the Senior Deputy Governor and 12 independent directors appointed to three-year renewable terms by the Governor in Council (the Cabinet). The Deputy Minister of Finance is an ex officio non-voting member of the Board.

Cabinet of Canada

The dream team with pictures is anyone is into that type of thing: https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/cabinet

The issue is it seems that even if proven guilty they won't commit to releasing the details or a additional investigation.

There may still be police investigations into these allegations, the ministers said, and details could eventually be released as part of that process.

But that raises the question of whether the voting public will know who's alleged to have engaged in such conduct before the next federal election, which is expected sometime in 2025.

They don't even want to properly address any of it.

Public Safety Minister Dominic LeBlanc sidestepped a question about the report's conclusion that certain unnamed parliamentarians inappropriately worked with foreign actors.

"I think as a matter of principle, it's unwise to speak about specific elements that may involve individuals," LeBlanc said.

He also said the "government respectfully disagrees" with some of NSICOP's findings, without offering any specific concerns about what the committee found.

even make the slightest attempt to fix the housing problem in this country. None really want to fix the cost of living either.

There won't be much affordability with housing prices the way they are.

I also rank voting reform over housing. Without voting reform the only plausible flip on housing policies won't come for decades until things get way worse for more Canadians.

I think the answer is like housing in which case no party really has any desire to even attempt fix it so people should be voting for something they'd plausibly even attempt do.

1. Hillbillies believing the cons about reducing spending

I find it pretty compelling to believe they'll reduce the deficit.

The issue is they'll do it through austerity and selling crown assets which is will cost Canadian even more in the long run but that's largely the next government's problem.

Fyi. Japanese housing structure lifespan is rather unique.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_in_Japan

An unusual feature of Japanese housing is that houses are presumed to have a limited lifespan, and are often torn down and rebuilt after a few decades, generally twenty years for wooden buildings and thirty years for concrete buildings – see regulations for details.