Samskara @ Samskara @sh.itjust.works

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Sure, the IDF takes in a few 17 year olds. I haven’t heard of anyone underage serving in combat though. I’m sure it happened during the war of independence and earlier at times though.

Hamas reportedly used minors in military roles in Gaza, mostly lookouts and such.

Military training for 15 year old teenagers is not the same as 17 year olds.

Israel is a state and can legally recruit 16 year olds and older. I’m not aware that Israel does this though. Hamas as a non state actor is only allowed 18 years and above.

The use of minors by Palestinian armed groups has been documented many times over the decades.

Have you ever talked to Palestinians? This isn’t even a secret. The youth culture, especially in refugee camps, is big on idolizing martyrs.

The most recent example of a terrorist group run by teenagers is Lion‘s Den in the West Bank.

Now, is every Palestinian teenager member of an armed group and fighting actively? Certainly not.

Read my comment until the end.

Palestinian teenagers joining the ranks of armed groups like Hamas are nothing new.

I have read several reports of Gazan boys being used as unarmed sentries and scouts by militants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_child_suicide_bombers_by_Palestinian_militant_groups

https://www.dci-palestine.org/child_recruitment

https://efe.com/en/latest-news/2023-11-24/israel-hamas-truce-15-teens-accused-of-terrorism-to-be-freed-in-exchange/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/15000-young-gazans-complete-hamas-terror-training-camps/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-accuses-hamas-islamic-jihad-of-using-child-soldiers/

Death sentences for combatants are of course illegal and unacceptable, especially when underage.

The Knesset also contains people opposed to the war. I don’t see how such an attack would bring a military advantage.

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule8

In so far as objects are concerned, military objectives are limited to those objects which by their nature, location, purpose or use make an effective contribution to military action and whose partial or total destruction, capture or neutralization, in the circumstances ruling at the time, offers a definite military advantage.

Killing Hamas civilian leaders in charge of internal security, meaning they also hunt Israeli spies, would bring an obvious military advantage.

Attacking the Israeli defense ministry or border police, the prime minister, or the cabinet could be justified as giving a military advantage.

Now, I’m not sure if civilian leadership of the armed forces count as combatants or not. However an attack should be covered by the above. IANAL of course.

Don’t get me wrong. Israel certainly commits war crimes, I’m not sure this was one.

The BBC reports things both sides find inconvenient for their narrative.

Yes, their numbers are the best available. The health ministry has adjusted and corrected their numbers at times though. They increase the total number reported quickly just from media reports. Over time they document individual deaths, identify bodies, and so on. So there’s a constant mismatch of reported deaths snd documented the deaths. Over time this gap closes though.

Deaths from starvation are included. They amounted to two dozen or so, last time I checked.

Bad health care conditions of course increase the likelihood of deaths from preexisting chronic diseases, treatable diseases or injury, and so on. So the elderly and the very young are more susceptible to dying than during peacetime. AFAIK this excess mortality isn’t typically counted towards civilian casualties in wars.

So far there have been no epidemics documented, that resulted in high numbers of deaths. The Polio epidemic has one documented case and resulted in a ceasefire with a big vaccination drive.

So these estimates of 180,000 are not backed up by hard data as of now.

The health ministry does not distinguish between combatant and civilian deaths. Additionally people shot by Hamas for espionage/treason or other crimes are not listed separately.

Both Bardaweel and Barhoum were members of the 19-member Hamas decision-making body, the political office

Killing members of a government at war is something else than killing civilians.

Why is it nonsense? Hamas has been the government in Gaza for twenty years and ran a pretty authoritarian and harsh regime. There are no institutions in Gaza run against the will of Hamas.

BBC is accused by Zionists all the time to be biased against them.

The article is from November.

That estimate has turned out to be wrong. Even the author of the lancet piece distanced themselves from it.

Hamas has every reason to present a high death toll. There have been several adjustments of the numbers as well over time.

They estimate another 10k buried under the rubble.

The number of deaths has only been increasing slowly for months.

Also notable is that Hamas and the other militants have not released a number of dead combatants.

There’s enough proven death and destruction. Clinging on to false number from the Lancet is just spreading misinformation and doesn’t help Palestinians.

Why was that BBC article even linked? It’s from November last year and the numbers have changed since.

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Conditions might get worse though until I’m either forced to act or it’s too late.

The part through Israel is by far the safest section of this trail.

Half that is more realistic. You have to sleep, rest, eat, buy supplies, get lost, etc. There will be bad terrain, mountains, bad weather, etc. as well.

Matrix/Element has shitty usability and reliability compared to Discord.

For lots of communities, they could use modern forum software like Discourse with better results.

This number might count soldiers several times. If a soldier gets injured and becomes a casualty, they can heal up and then serve again. So the same soldier could be injured and recover three times and then be killed. That would make hm a causally four times.

ADM-160 MALD does serve that purpose and has been in service for a bit.