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Yet we're not seeing calls for Hamas to step down and let innocent Palestinians live in some version of peace that can never be known under Islamic jihad....

Which I find very weird. The lack of conversation surrounding the admitted goals of the leaders of the Palestinian people is something that needs to be part of any conversation.

I'm not saying it as a gotcha, I'm stating it as a fact. Hamas is Palestinian, made up of Palestinians and currently representing the Palestinian people to the world.

It's not wrong to say Hamas is Palestinian, it's 100% accurate and truthful.

Hamas existed well before they were elected, their founding Charter is based on Islamic jihadism. You're not so ignorant as to believe that the people of Gaza weren't aware of this when electing them, and if you are then please get off tik tok and touch some grass.

No lie, just Jew hate. People refuse to accept that the propaganda they've swallowed isn't backed by the historical record.

Mother fuckers out there claiming Jesus was a Palestinians Arab FFS. Dude died before Islam was even a thing. It's wild watching the disinformation flying around these days.

Did I miss when America elected the KKK? I'm not American, I might have not seen that on the history Channel....

So not the same thing, not even remotely close to the same thing.

Except for the fact Iraq wasn't calling for the death of all Americans as part of their charter. It's nothing alike, this is more like if Mexico started attacking America every single day and said it wouldn't stop until every American was dead.

The leadership of Hamas has said clearly that Israel is the start, they intend to take Jordan next. They've already tried and failed in Jordan.

Israel has offered something like a dozen internationally backed peace agreements. Each one has been rejected by the Palestinians who refused to acknowledge Israel as a country. What do you mean they've long made it clear? They've made offers over the past twenty years.... they left Gaza entirely in that time. They're not trying now, but they've certainly tried plenty over the years.

Considering Israel has returned land that it's acquired in conflicts, they've shown they're not interested in crossing into Jordan, Egypt and the like. I don't think I've ever seen an argument they're trying to be expansionist beyond the west bank or what their hard right would consider their biblical borders, that's a weird one. Their push to the river is clearly a defensive maneuver to rid itself of a threat that can strike its capital. Peace would eliminate that argument and most Israelis are in favor of leaving the wb and the strip entirely.

I never said it was but.... Palestinian= Hamas as it is comprised of Palestinians so calling Hamas Palestinian isn't incorrect in any way shape or form.

It's green space conservation. Always nice to see in the urban jungle.

More like the one protecting the entire western world from Islamic jihad expanding more.

There's a reason the leadership of the civilized world has lined up against the Palestinians here. This is a zero sum game BY THEIR OWN ADMISSION, with Israel being the first target. They even say Jordan is next. It's wild people are supporting them but not believing them.

See my original reply. It applies to this comment as well.

You could have just swapped your first few lines for ' I'm selfish and don't care about others'.

Of course you do. You're not a raging prick.

ITT a bunch of fucking losers claiming to have hearing problems and would rather be a dick in public than invest in proper headphones.

Note on the claim part, I don't believe a fraction of the assholes here, just trying to justify their assholery. People with legitimate hearing issues tend to accept the support technology that's readily available these days. I spend quite a bit of time around folks who are actually hard of hearing.

Clinton is infinitely more intelligent and effective than aoc has proven to be though. Clinton gets hated on because she was good at her job, aoc gets hated on for being a brown chick.

I do have an android....any help linking me to how to do this? Not so experienced on this side of things.

Thanks!

A cease fire just means more dead Israelis. At least according to the Palestinians the other day when interviewed. The leadership is openly saying they intend on doing 10/7 style attacks again and again....so what country could possibly go ahead with a ceasefire?

LoL.... Biden, the guy who's supportive of pretty much all middle eastern countries that aren't maniacal death cults, or Trump who literally banned all Muslims from America.

Do y'all think Trump would deport them all to Gaza or to Geneva by mistake?

Whose lines are they renting?

So one of my issues is I changed the PW and can't remember what I changed it to LoL. Every damned PW id ever consider isn't working.

Not a smrt move by yours truly.

And Rogers is a better option for you? Cuz around here, Bell is much better service.

Bell showed up at my door with a two year plan that's 1/3 of what I pay Shaw/Rogers now. Pretty much identical services but 35 instead of 98, plus another 10 off my wife's cell phone for bundling.

It's going to be a pain to move the dozens of WiFi devices over, maybe a day or so but for $1000.... I'll find the time.

The salesman told me old people on my block are turning it down because they don't want change. One guy was paying 300/MTH for his bundle and would have saved 2/3 of that.

People need to be less lazy. That's what will create market pressure. Hustle for your money.