RunningInRVA @ RunningInRVA @lemmy.world

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I find it interesting how some folks feel this is entirely an issue of policing gone wrong. There can be no fault for Tyreek here, apparently.

In Florida, the traffic code states that not following an officer’s lawful order or direction is a misdemeanor offense. It allows the police officer to remove Tyreek from his car and cuff him.

And why not?

Please stop calling me a bootlicker. It’s not necessary for this conversation to occur.

It was Tyreek not following directions and making the inside of his car not clearly visible to the officer (despite his requests). That creates a safety problem for the officer. This was the main issue IMO. If words don’t work and the citizen is not cooperating then I’m curious what is the next step besides pulling the guy from his car?

Squid - I think your arguments are subjective at best. Because I saw a white guy get away with more doesn’t mean that this is an issue of race and your sample size of n=1 doesn’t hold a lot of weight for your argument either. I’m a white guy and I would never dream of acting out like Tyreek did for fear that the same thing could happen to me. I have a hard time seeing race as the issue based on what I saw. Tyreek even said he was embarrassed after the fact. He didn’t handle this situation well at all.

Fine but those situations are not the same as “angry and noncooperative citizen disobeying my request and I can no longer see what is happening inside the vehicle.”

I would argue that this is actually the correct situation for a police officer to feel more concerned for their safety.

Try doing it the next time you are at a traffic stop and the officer asks you not too. See how it works out for you.

It’s more the latter. I don’t argue that race disparity exists. I’m only arguing that Tyreek did not do any kind of favor to himself in how he handled the situation. I’m sorry he got pulled from his car and cuffed, but my reaction to the video was that he had this coming. Blatantly disobeying an officer’s requests and in a way that can lead the officer to feel unsure over his/her safety and perceived control of the situation is going to end poorly. This could easily happen to a white person.

He wasn’t arrested. He was temporarily detained so that the police officers could safely issue a speeding ticket to an uncooperative citizen.

It was the fully tinted window being all the way up that created the safety issue in the officer’s eyes.

Sure, fuck the police but I argue a white person or a black person is heading for a bad time if they act the way that he acted. I can’t speculate on this any more than anybody else on “what if” scenarios should Tyreek have been white, but if you create a situation where the cop does not feel safe (e.g. rolling up your 100% tinted windows against their instructions) then you are going to get an escalation from the police.

I’ll get downvoted, but the body cam footage I saw showed Tyreek talking back to the officer, refusing instructions by rolling up his window, and telling them not to knock on his car window. It’s not exactly surprising he got yanked out of his car. Go ahead and argue it wouldn’t happen to a white person. I’m not getting into that discussion. Perhaps the cops should have attempted to deescalate, but Tyreek did himself 0 favors. Was not surprised that he found out after fucking around with the cop.

Mods?

We had to defend Biden because at the time the alternative was worse.

Those will all be coming 2 weeks after Election Day I’m sure.

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Great pic and thanks for sharing your process.

Trump the person came apart at the seams a long time ago. Trump as a “thing” still seems very strong.

This is just the latest deflection from a man who knows he is entirely unfit for office. It’s pathetic that our politics has brought us to this place.

I would like to believe that but there is way too much energy behind this guy. He would have to implode horrifically.