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The mere act of including "from others" is all the proof required.

If Self was valid for the Siphon effect they wouldn't have had to mention it at all, since Self is automatically included as a valid target unless otherwise stated.

You're a valid target for the spell, but the heal doesn't trigger cause the target isn't someone other than yourself.

It specifically makes a point of saying "can siphon life from others to heal your wounds".

So, Self is a valid target for the damage. However, the heal doesn't occur because the target is not someone else.

If self was valid for the siphon there would be no reason to include the "from others" rider

There's no need for that, wizards are strong enough as is. They can pick up cure wounds somehow and use that spell instead.

Seems like you can target yourself but it can only heals "From others".

It's not particularly pedantic to ignore the "from others" part

The fact that it mentions others to begin with can't be ignored though.

Essentially by including that gate in the spell we understand that Self is a valid target, but if target is self then heal does not occur.

There's no need for the rest of the text to explain what has already been explained, it would be redundant.

It goes off but doesn't heal you because the text specifically says

The touch of your shadow-wreathed hand can siphon life force from others to heal your wounds.

Life will be fine, not sure about current life forms though.

What I'm hearing is have the BBEG murder them.

My favourite bard BBEGs were from Mystical Ninja on the Nintendo 64.

A spell cast with a bonus action is especially swift. You must use a bonus action on your turn to cast the spell, provided that you haven't already taken a bonus action this turn. You can't cast another spell during the same turn, except for a cantrip with a casting time of 1 action.

It only stipulates that a Spell cast as a Bonus Action locks off any Action Spells from being cast that turn that isn't a Cantrip.

But, 2 leveled spells cast as Actions is fair game.

It's pretty strong, and it's why the 1DND play test has changed Action Surge so that it can only take the Attack, Dash, Disengage, and Dodge action

You need the action surge to cast 2 leveled spells.

Quickened spell changes a spell to a Bonus Action, but doesn't remove the Action Cantrips only limitation of casting a BA spell

Almost.

Action Surge only gives you an additional action for the turn. Casting a Bonus Action Spell would lock off both the standard and additional action from being able to cast a leveled spell.

So, 2 Cantrips + a BA spell works.

2 leveled spells as actions works, but no BA spell even if it's a Cantrip.