Rhoeri @ Rhoeri @lemmy.world

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From your own article:

“In France, where the terms originated, the left has been called "the party of movement" or liberal”

And since “liberal” is synonymous with democrats…

The left are democrats.

This was fun!

Hey look! It’s Universal Monk, showing up in a .world community. Pretty bold move dude.

It’s fucking hilarious how you all try to change the meaning of “the left.”

The left has always been the Democratic Party, bud. And while it can be inclusive to other sociological and political ideologies, at its core, the democrats have been at its epicenter.

Maybe look up when the term originated from?

To me, all attempts to co-opt the term appear to only be accepted by those that like to misuse it, constantly.

Ahh… personal attacks now?

It’s not a case in point against me. It’s makes my point. Rittenhouse was guilty and walked because the case against him couldn’t be proven.

I said- if Luigi did it- he should rot in prison. If he didn’t he shouldn’t.

This had nothing to do with whether or not a case could be proven against him. It had to do with how it SHOULD be. Fucking christ! I didn’t think I needed to explain this.

If he did it- it should be provable if there’s evidence. If so, rot in jail as a murderer.

If he didn’t- he’s not specifically found innocent, he’s just found not guilty… and he should walk.

For fuck’s sake….

Internet lawyers are the fucking worst!

Well, considering that a Time Machine is out of the question, and the military- who happens to be capable of using satellites in space to turn every single one of you into a pink mist without even scratching the paint on your neighbors car- is not on your side, I’d say your only option is through diplomacy.

Because face it- America fucked up.

This was all avoidable back in November. There was the chance to overcome this problem- no… to avoid it all-together. But too many chose not to. They chose to make a statement. And now, sadly- everyone suffers for it. That’s it. The end.

If it helps- let’s look at it this way:

Let’s say you committed a crime¹. You are caught, and have been found guilty² Your penance, is prison³. Now, while in prison, you can plan to escape⁴, but you know that won’t work, it’s impossible, and if it were, it would only be so for someone smart enough to pull it off. That you commuted the crime and got caught, illustrates that you are not.

You’re not getting out. Plain and simple.

Now optionally, you can just sit there and stew in the colossal failure that caused you to be in there to begin with and work towards learning from your mistakes so that if/when you are released, you can do better⁵- or you can work with your lawyer(s) on your options to have your sentence overturned⁶.

Those are your options.

In this scenario:

• ¹ - didn’t vote against Trump
\ • ² - Trump gets elected
\ • ³ - Trump’s term
\ • ⁴ - Proposed armed uprising attempt
\ • ⁵ - Pay attention and be an informed voter
\ • ⁶ - Be active in local politics. Help in any way you are able to help move the states motions to impeach when the time comes. Work with local groups to petition state reps to act on his crimes.

It’s this or nothing.

Because if you think you have the organization, tactical knowledge, technical functionality, manpower, and arms to overcome the most powerful military on the planet, I would say go right ahead and try-

But know that in doing so- you’re gong to get a LOT of innocent people killed. It’ll be a fucking bloodbath.

And in the end, whoever remains- gets trump for life.

Lastly, do not mistake my suggesting that nothing can be done as a willingness to do nothing about it. Some people sit in prison, knowing they fucked up. They’re not giving in. They’re just quietly having the balls it takes to know they royally fucked it, and working towards understanding how they can avoid a repeat scenario.

Being a realist is not a weakness. Not is it being compliant. It’s simply accepting a circumstance that is out of one’s control.

And for the record, peaceful protest is provenly more effective than violence. Reference:

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So from-

We don’t decide who’s guilty or not based on how we feel about the victim.

Your take is that I’m Rittenhouse.

LOL…

IF HE DID IT, HE SHOULD ROT. IF HE DIDN’T, HE SHOULD WALK.

Does every concept of every idea need to be explained around here? It’s a given in the above statement that if he can’t be found guilty- he should walk. Why does this need to be argued?

My fucking god people need everything spelled out around here. For fuck’s sake.

Either way it doesn’t matter. If he did it, he should rot. If he didn’t- He should walk.

Why is this difficult for you to understand.

I love how people can’t debate without writing lines for their opponent. It has the added benefit of making it easier to just tag them as a waste of time.

If you want to discuss this, I get to say my part in this- not you.

Yeah…. This one hurts a bit, but I thank you for it.

Yes he is. It’s the sleight of hand you’re supposed to be watching while the other one is in your pocket looking for everything you’ve got.

Either way it doesn’t matter. The point is- if it is proven that he did it, he should rot. If it is found that he didn’t, he should walk.

That’s how a justice system is supposed to work.

We don’t decide who’s guilty or not based on how we feel about the victim.

I didn’t say that either.

I think most of the people are pretty sure he did it. It’s just that the “it wasn’t him” defense is popular amongst the people that think vigilante justice should allow for legalized murder.

If he actually did it, he should rot in jail like any other murderer. If it can be proven that he didn’t, he didn’t he should walk free. That’s how it should be. That is how civilized people work.

And the people that think he should walk even if he did kill a man- just because of who that man is, they have become the very thing they hate.

If only they would take a moment to understand this.

Yep. This was ALL avoidable.

And the minute they begin to fight, Trump locks it all down and America enters into a martial law that I guarantee won’t end before his third term.

If there’s an uprising- it’ll have to be all-or-nothing- and that nothing will come at a heavy cost.

I really hope people know this is exactly what he wants. You’re being baited into giving him everything he needs.

This is how you guarantee trump’s third term.

I think you’re 100% correct.

when the fuck do we rise up?

As long as there’s an internet to keep the keyboard warriors happy enough to just complain about it online and then walk away feeling like they’re part of the resistance?

Never.

And the moment there is an uprising, you’ve just given Trump his reason to secure a third term. So, there’s that.

From where I see it- the only way to fight this is to create a functional time machine and go back and tell the ninety one million people smooth-brained dipshits that sitting their asses and whining about genocide in a country they couldn’t have even pointed to on a map a year and a half ago- would result in everything happening now.

This was avoidable.

And now we have to contend with the possibility of having to participate in an absolute shitshow of a bloodbath as the only means to regain the freedoms we had just a few months ago?

I honestly don’t know who’s worse; the far left protest voting- dumbasses that helped put us here, or the far right MAGA voting dumbasses that wanted to put us here.

My god he looks is old and defeated.

FTFY