RedDawn [he/him] @ RedDawn @hexbear.net

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No, that isn’t a clarification. You’re not understanding that the birth rates in the rest of China were already much lower prior to the 10% decrease. The Uighur population has been growing even as the Han population has leveled out, because the Han already had lower birth rates for decades. The Uighur were exempted from the one child policy as well. So yeah, the rest decreased 10%, there was less room to decrease in the first place because birth rates were already very low!

What the fuck is “Tibet is happening today” even supposed to mean? Tibet is a place and it’s a way better place to live now than it was in 1950, when it was ruled by a slave driving religious monarchy. Tibetan Buddhists are moving to live in Chinese Tibet because it’s a much better place to live than India.

we can do something about it

Like what? Repeat nonsensical atrocity propaganda from the state department and get psyched up for a war against China? Like you did for Iraq? Gross

American crimes against humanity are far worse, and they are ongoing. America has more people locked up than any other country in the world (including China which has quadruple the population) and they’re overwhelmingly disproportionately black and indigenous.

Also why are you putting terrorism and extremism in quotes, are you unaware of the terrorism campaigns carried out by ETIM and how the deradicalization program actually worked to end it? America is just malding because China figured out a relatively peaceful way (much moreso at least than America’s own approach of killing a million people across the entire Middle East after one terrorist attack) to neutralize imported Wahhabist terrorism. The CIA plan to destabilize China got foiled so now you’re crying genocide instead, but it’s so transparent that every single Muslim country in the world has sided with China on the issue.

What’s your take on white genocide?

Alt Right and alt left both deny the existence of the tooth fairy

notably in Hungary when there were democratic protests

You’re talking about the fascist uprising where they went around marking the houses of Jews and Communists for extermination, like only a decade after the Soviets saved the world from Hitler?

Damn too bad they’re not going to do that, so what should we do about that? We support a negotiated settlement to the conflict in order to achieve peace, you support marching every single Ukrainian person into a meat grinder to die. Which of is more right wing?

There were actually numerous western reporters in the square and they all say nobody died there, some of them sent off diplomatic cables the same or the next day saying so, which were released by Wikileaks.

You actually can and should expect that from us, we’re huge on credible sources and methodology, we’re obsessed with arriving at correct conclusions and that means starting from reliable premises.

Birth rates were already much lower in the rest of China, did the Han do a genocide on themselves first lol or is declining birth rate the norm in a country with massively improved economic conditions and development, and has that begun to affect the more rural regions of China?

The fact of the matter is that if a genocide was happening there would be evidence of it, but there isn’t. If anything on the order of what’s alleged in these sorts of threads were happening it wouldn’t even be possible to hide it. There would be tens of thousands of refugees flooding into neighboring countries at the very least. Instead, you can literally go walk around Xinjiang and see Uyghur people happily living their lives, or if you don’t want to do that you could watch any of hundreds of videos of other people doing that. Every Muslim majority country in the world sides with China on this issue, and only the US and it’s lackeys (countries famous for their deep concern about the rights of Muslims) are making hay about it.

It’s actually me but nobody ever wants to admit it

I guess you missed the point that one person has the decision to control everything

No, he’s saying you’re wrong (and you are). In China there isn’t one person who controls everything. They have millions of elected officials, you don’t have any clue what you’re talking about.

Oh you don’t like being exploited? Well, you’re free to starve and die instead! Freedom!

The rich and the poor are equally free to sleep under a bridge at night.

Everybody is equally free to turn down a job when they need money for food, housing, medical care and other necessities of basic life.

Chinese poverty elimination didn’t come on the backs of any of those things you goober. “Well have you considered that sometimes OTHER countries did bad things to reduce domestic poverty, and therefore China doing so is inherently bad actually !?” Grow the fuck up, this isn’t a real argument.

The Chinese government has much higher approval ratings from its people (consent of the governed) than the U.S. and most any other western “democracy”. It uses less violence against its citizens (US has the highest rate of incarceration in the world plus high rates of police murder and brutality) as well as internationally (China hasn’t bombed or invaded anybody in like 40 years while the U.S. does so daily over the same time period). Objectively, for the word to have any meaning at all the US is far more authoritarian. It uses its authority more violently and malevolently. If you can’t admit this you aren’t engaging with reality, you’re just afraid of challenging the propaganda you’ve been indoctrinated with.

It’s not a no brainer, it’s a point of debate for like over a hundred years and the people who recognize the concept of the Labor Aristocracy as Lenin described it have generally shown to be correct, I don’t have much faith in the revolutionary potential of the people in the imperial core until the empire itself begins failing.

The idea is that superprofits from exploiting foreign workers are distributed broadly enough to the domestic “middle class” to make them comfortable and give them a stake in imperialism and therefore capitalism, so they have little revolutionary potential. And this has mostly been true, though I’d say neoliberalism has been short sighted enough to concentrate the wealth so tightly at the top that conditions have been getting worse for even the “labor aristocracy”, so it may be less true going forward. That and if the third world with the help of China/Russia etc can effectively give imperialists the boot, the imperial core bourgeoisie won’t even have the option of buying off their workers anymore. But that’s something that will take decades to develop.