I also have a major problem whenever I get the sense a European is trashing the US for problems and a history that are absolutely being ignored in Europe. There's been a glut of that making me over-sensitive perhaps. My Brit-sense was tingling for the original comment, but it may be off.
Ugh, look. I don't want to fight because clearly you are in a different environment and social circle and you're right that stuff like the practice of overthrowing governments in South America to benefit businesses and a large number of horrors are not discussed.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki are not among them. And when it comes to racism, we are actually talking about it unlike Europe. The most powerful people in the country want to kill this discourse, but they CAN'T except in pockets of the most brainwashed home-schooled isolated people in the country.
But I resent being called delusional. Because we are earnestly and honestly struggling with this stuff as a nation. It's just that we're struggling against all the powers you name, and the dark history of the United States is not hidden like it is in other countries. It's present and on most people's minds.
I've been out of the country and we are lightyears ahead of other countries when it comes to reckoning with our past. No, we're not perfect, but we're a hell of a lot more open. You know how I know?
Because I was raised in Trumpland, PA and I joined the military and served in Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma and Europe and I was able to learn about the Native American genocide, slavery, and Hiroshima and Nagasaki at school, and managed to absorb the rest through pop culture. We had a variety of differing assumptions when we talked, but we still talked. Yes, I heard that Lee was a gentleman but a trip to Gettysburg easily discarded that notion. My history teacher was quick to point out the founding fathers were opportunists.
There is stuff, like the bullshit we've been pulling in South America, that hasn't gotten discussed. That's true. But it's not just the radical minority that's aware the country is basically built on rivers of blood. The awareness is all over our pop culture.
You're not hearing what's good enough in your liberal state, but I have been knee deep in conservatism since birth and I've still managed to pick up on the horrors of our national history.
Now, just for comparison, go ask a Brit or a Frenchman about the Native American genocide and their country's role in it.
I saw those pictures in school. We know that Truman signed off on dropping the bomb on two civilian cities and it was a horror that had never been seen in the world before or since.
Dude, we talk about our atrocities all the time. The current push to whitewash Native American genocide and slavery is actually getting a huge pushback, because we talk openly about this stuff in the US and it's only a minority that tries to silence it. We talk openly about the atrocities during the Vietnam War, and about the invasion of Iraq, and about prosecution for war crimes in Afghanistan and Iraq.
You can say a LOT about the US, and even the amount of denial we have about our standing in the world, but you can't call us in denial about stuff like that. We're in conflict within ourselves about it, but it's a well known and well discussed thing in the US.
And wait... are you from lemmygrad? The tankie server?
I just want to stop and appreciate that we can all take it as a given she wants to kill a human being but have to think twice about her wanting to destroy the car.
I never once said they didn't deserve a living wage. Jackass businessmen might not pay them enough, but that's wrong. I said our food production is DEPENDENT on migrant workers. No matter what we pay them, we NEED them because we NEED the influx of people to fill those jobs. They should get a living wage.
That you jumped to that conclusion on such a statement suggests you have been WAITING for a change to whatabout me, and tells me that you are not arguing in good faith. So good day.
It's not infinite people, because there's not infinite people. There's only about 8 billion people and most of them are in Asia.
And how are our resources over in the US? Well, we throw away more food than we eat. (and a lot of our food production is actually DEPENDENT on migrant workers from the south who come in to pick fruits and vegetables during the harvest season.) We have enough empty homes to actually give every homeless person a home and we are still building. We have huge stretches of unoccupied land. Service industries are COMPLAINING that they don't have enough workers right now.
Yes, you and I individually may not have any money. But this is a problem with rich hoarders, not a problem with lack of resources. Our problems are policy-based, the scarcity is artificial.
A finite number of people live in countries that are too dangerous for them to live in because of US foreign policy. A finite number of people need to move from country to country seasonally to get work.
There is no good reason to hurt someone trying to cross the border. There is no good reason to throw a child into a river to prevent them from entering.
The only reason people crossing a border is a problem is when you are an authoritarian government trying to control your population.
I am not comfortable at ALL with the US having razorwire borders in common with North Korea. It's not a far journey from keeping people OUT to keeping them IN and conditions in the US are getting worse.
I'm not sure using a program designed to find the most likely words and sentences is a great way to finish up a book series known for turning cliches and tropes on their heads.
I suppose I am being too optimistic.
I also have a major problem whenever I get the sense a European is trashing the US for problems and a history that are absolutely being ignored in Europe. There's been a glut of that making me over-sensitive perhaps. My Brit-sense was tingling for the original comment, but it may be off.