@Phoenixbouncing Soldiers are more strictly regimented than regular police, I think. Hell, if you fuck up just a little as an MP you are out of that career field. Unfortunately, it's because of a STRONGER hierarchy and if the leader goes bad they all go with him. Which is why when there's war crimes it's usually a whole unit committing them.
Of course, there's also the aspect where the Law of Armed Conflict forbids anyone in the armed forces from doing things that civilian police forces do all the time, like using tear gas.
See, this only works if you think everyone in the state is voting in lockstep. They aren't. Let's assume two choices. In a state with 100 people, 64 vote for A and 36 for B. In another state, with 1000 voters, 466 vote for A, 534 for B. A third state with 100 people, 53 vote for A and 47 for B.
That ends up, with an electoral college system, as 2 votes for A and 1 for B. A wins. HOWEVER, only 583 of 1200 people voted for A. 617 people voted for B. Not only are the wishes of the state with 1000 voters devalued, but the minority votes of the people in the smaller states are also devalued, because it is assumed that the STATE votes rather than the PERSON.
That's thing, though. That's the question the court is answering. It says that the closest human is STILL NOT CLOSE ENOUGH if they aren't doing the same level of control and work as a human would be doing if they gave them the prompt.
If you use an AI as just another tool, that's one thing. But just giving a prompt is NOT creating art.
@nous I figure a judge wouldn't count prompts because they are basically commissions. If you commission an artist to create a piece for you, it's still their piece. If a corporation commissions the artist to create the piece, they can own it as work-for-hire, which is EXACTLY what Thaler was trying to claim in this case, but they aren't the creator.
If you can replace "AI" with "Professional Artist" and you wouldn't be eligible for your amount of input, then it's not copyrightable.
@liztliss My personal theory is that they know we aren't a cat like them, but they figure we think the same way they do and that most everyone shows affection and communicates like a cat. I could be wrong, but it seems to fit.
@Freesoftwareenjoyer Gaming isn't as bad as cryptomining farms and the stuff required by an AI server, man. You need to go look up some of the load on this stuff.
And you still haven't gotten back to me on how AI improves society. People too lazy to learn to draw can say they drew something they actually didn't? That's not improvement.
@Freesoftwareenjoyer Anyone could create art before. Anyone could edit photos. And with practice, they could become good. Artists aren't some special class of people born to draw, they are people who have honed their skills.
And for people who didn't want to hone their skills, they could pay for art. You could argue that's a change but AI is not gonna be free forever, and you'll probably end up paying in the near future to generate that art. Which, be honest, is VERY different from "making art." You input a direction and something else made it, which isn't that different from just getting a friend to draw it.
@SCB The Luddites gave way to Unions, which yes were more effective and gave us a LOT of good things like the 8 hour work week, weekends, and vacations. Technology alone did not give us that. Technology applied as bosses and barons wanted did not give us that. Collective action did that. And collective action has evolved along a timeline that INCLUDES sabotaging technology.
Things like the SAGAFTRA/WGA strike are what's going to get us good results from the adoption of AI. Until then, the AI is just a tool in the hands of the rich to control labor.
@Freesoftwareenjoyer interesting you mention stopping burning coal. Because mining and burning coal is bad for the environment.
Guess what else is bad for the environment? Huge datacenters supporting AI. They go through electricity and water and materials at the same rates as bitcoin mining.
A human being writing stuff only uses as much energy as a human being doing just about anything else, though.
So yes, while ending coal would cost some miners jobs, the net gain is worth it. But adopting AI in standard practice in the entertainment industry does not have the same gains. It can't offset the human misery caused by the job loss.
@newacctwhodis Yeah, but that wouldn't hurt as much because all the people out of work would still have healthcare.
AI displaced creatives will lose their healthcare.
Now if we passed healthcare, and THEN started replacing people with AI? That would make things considerably less dire for the future. But only one of those is happening and it's AI alone, because the rich do not care about other people.
@Phoenixbouncing Soldiers are more strictly regimented than regular police, I think. Hell, if you fuck up just a little as an MP you are out of that career field. Unfortunately, it's because of a STRONGER hierarchy and if the leader goes bad they all go with him. Which is why when there's war crimes it's usually a whole unit committing them.
Of course, there's also the aspect where the Law of Armed Conflict forbids anyone in the armed forces from doing things that civilian police forces do all the time, like using tear gas.