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This is my sentiment too. I have 2 years left until all my kids are adults. I fucking cherish this bullshit.

Oh mate, this is my favourite comment. It's about 32 hours later and my right ear is still ringing. Full on white noise. There was a point near the end of the concert where the band asked the crowd to scream as loud as they could. Fuck me, did they oblige. It was piercing.

I'm at another music venue tonight, a fraction of the size. I'm basically deaf. Last night was inescapable high pitched sound. Tonight is calming whale song in comparison.

I mean, I was right there

Chase Atlantic

Unbelievable guess! It wasn't, but she is also the world's biggest Ghost fan. She went to watch them a week or so ago and cried with happiness throughout.

I could try and get them all in a single wild stream, like an F1 victory champagne.

Being in receipt of a gift.

But yes, that pricing is bullshit.

Wasn't the entire game of Dragon's Lair based on Quick Time Events? That predates Shenmue by like 15 years.

Except they don't use the space well do they, as you've said. Toolbars, menus, status bars, task bars etc all reside horizontally.

Most widescreen monitors in offices allow you to put two documents next to each other, but still don't let you see the whole page and remain readable. There's no question that a taller monitor wouldn't solve that, because as you've said earlier, why not rotate your screen?

I wouldn't have to if it was taller 😂

This makes no sense at all. UIs are justified in not making full use of a widescreen monitor because at some point someone might want to use another at the same time?

No I'm not upset by anything 😂

It sounds like you're excusing poor UI design by saying "just use the extra space for something else"

If only those apps displayed even less content horizontally, we could get even more of them on the screen and be yet more productive, right!? 😂

As mentioned, this doesn't solve the problem of apps not utilising the available space efficiently. "Just open another app" isn't a solution to "Why doesn't the app I'm working on appropriately use the available space".

I think you might be missing the point though.

Not everyone needs to multitask in two apps simultaneously. In fact most of the time, most workers are only going to be working on a single application. If that application isn't making full use of the widescreen, then saying "just fill that space with another app" doesn't solve anything. In fact if anything, it potentially reduces the real estate the main app had.

Yes they now have two apps open, but they're still only working on one. They don't "need" the other one, so why not design the primary app or web page to more appropriately scale to the display?

It's got absolutely fuck all to do with "what can the user do to better utilise the technology" and everything to do with UI design.

This is an unnecessarily patronising response.

Your answer to apps not utilising left and right space efficiently is "well you should do something else then". It's not the user's fault.

Edit: Deleting this comment because I'm an idiot.

Can't imagine there are too many traditional offices with 40" 6k screens.

As I say, I think it's unfair to blame users for "not using the screen properly" when most office software is set up for portrait, while the screens are horizontal. Yes you can use multiple windows (assuming your widescreen display is big enough to allow productive working with two smaller windows), or multiple screens, or rotate them etc, but they feel like workarounds to get around the fact that the applications work naturally in portrait, and most laptop screens for example don't easily accommodate any of those options. Which is probably why you see more 3:2 laptop displays than standalone monitors.

I don't think widescreens exist "primarily for additional tasks in an office setting". I think they're the default because, as another user said, TVs were that ratio.

It's weird that it's fine for widescreens to have additional areas to the sides that aren't used by many apps, but adding space vertically that would automatically be used by every office application isn't fine.

Yes you can use two apps side by side, yes you can rotate your screen, but the software in general literally defaults to reducing that available space by putting the taskbar and menus where they are, while usually being full screen screen by default.

Saying "You're using it wrong" is blaming the user for using the computer the way it was presented out of the box.

Genius.

Essentially if you want to use a monitor horizontally that's fine, if you want to rotate it vertically that's also fine, if you want to have equal horizontal and vertical real estate you're out of your mind.

we use the width more than the height.

Tell that to my scrolling finger.

Not if the square monitor is the same width as the widescreen though.