I understand this and I’m not trying to appeal to Gonzalists, but how do we find more unity with principled MZT and other relatively principled non-ML tendencies? Not everyone’s going to think China’s socialist and they don’t need to. Is this not more “I’m the most pure leftist unlike you ultras and revisionists?”
I’ve met reasonable anarchists, though. I don’t think we should waste our time on those who complain about tankies or any tiny authority, but they aren’t all bad. Anyway, my question wasn’t mostly about that, but with Maoists. We agree with them on pretty much everything except current day China. We are natural allies, yet when I was listening to Politics in Command when they interviewed a Maoist student group it sounded like their main priority was to convince people who found Marxism from Genzedong or Hasan that China was revisionist and they shouldn’t listen to us.
Lol, just because people have a legal “right” to some things doesn’t mean we don’t have a right to criticize the ways it’s damaging and there are far better alternatives. It’s also notable that in many places “private property” owners are not allowed the “right” to do what they wish with their land if it might be beneficial to the ecosystem because it would decrease “property values.”
That’s fine in Europe, but to any USians reading clover is not native here and there are natives you could/should be planting. Honey bees are also not native fyi, shout-out to native pollinators.
They were all grifters from the beginning, I didn’t expect any reform. More alarming is the continued prominence of patsocs that pretend they’re just regular principled MLs and are held up as such (I’m looking at you Midwestern Marx).
“The US has to resort to lying so they must be doomed”
The imperialists have always lied, that is not indicative of a current weakness. You mentioned the government’s diversion of discontent into electoral politics, but that just shows they can adapt. My hope comes more from the increasing radicalization of the youth, and the decaying living conditions that are part of a revolutionary situation.
Ah. Yeah, it sucks in a lot of rural areas, but they also have potential. We shouldn’t idealize them as class conscious vanguard like Midwestern Marx does, but not should we use insults specifically targeting their low class position and totally denounce them.
Suburbs or rural? There’s definitely a lot of reactionary propaganda directed there, but there are also a lot of poor people who have given up on influencing politics because it’s presented as a binary between Dems and GOP and Democrats just look like condescending urbanites. Not being around anyone who isn’t like you doesn’t exactly combat xenophobia too. I’m not crazy to think that the vanguard is in the rural white workers or that Republican voters are the real working class, but their interests do align and they could be brought to our side with less condescension and more empathetic propaganda. Obviously, oppressed nations will probably be leading the revolution, but we shouldn’t shit on mislead rural white people any more than we dismiss any potential in democrat voting urbanites.
I’d shy away from “redneck” as an insult. It used to mean communists and now means working class rural people. It just divides us from our natural allies just because they live in a different type of area. Most of these fascist fucks are bougie mfers who live in the suburbs.
Christians were the first communists, and today regardless of religious affiliation communists tend to be better at upholding Christian values than the average “Christian.” I don’t even know why I bother with you at this point.
Lol, just because people claim to be something doesn’t make them so. Elon Musk is a hypocrite , a racist, a transphobe, a benefactor of slavery, and a massive exploiter, of course Jesus wouldn’t approve. Would Jesus have approved of Chattel slavery in the US because southerners used Christianity to justify their way of life? Jesus isn’t out here whipping people anymore. He made it pretty clear that the punishment for exploitation and cruelty on earth is spiritual suffering. “It is easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than a rich man to get into heaven.” Elon Musk does not appear to be happy now, and I’m sure if hell exists, he’s going there.
He was always talking about how the rich can’t get into heaven and the poor deserve more. It’s important to note that this is the only time he openly got angry at anyone, and also as someone in this thread pointed out, he fashioned a whole whip to do it, which took time.
Sis, I’ve been sending you quotes like these for at least a week.
“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.” - matthew 6:24
“Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.” - Matthew 19:24
“Open your mouth, judge righteously, defend the rights of the poor and needy.” - proverbs 31:9
“And when you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap your field right up to its edge, nor shall you gather the gleanings after your harvest. You shall leave them for the poor and for the sojourner: I am the Lord your God.” - Leviticus 23:22
“ For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.” - 1 Timothy 6: 10
I understand this and I’m not trying to appeal to Gonzalists, but how do we find more unity with principled MZT and other relatively principled non-ML tendencies? Not everyone’s going to think China’s socialist and they don’t need to. Is this not more “I’m the most pure leftist unlike you ultras and revisionists?”