PupBiru @ PupBiru @kbin.social

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also as a kbin user

god damn i want a native kbin app!

not being on reddit doesn’t stop you from having basic decency

not being on reddit doesn’t stop you from having basic decency

oh for sure! that part is totally BS when you’ve bought the product already

of course nobody is going to commit to supporting a stable API for 10 to 20 years… that’s expensive as heck and not even remotely worth it!

there’s nothing “wrong” with software development, it’s just that consumers demand new features rather than stagnation… i sure don’t want to be using a 20 year old app because we’ve come a long way in 20 years in so many regards

in 2003, windows xp was still microsoft’s dominant OS with vista still being several years off, half life 2 was about to be released, gmail was allllmost ready to release, msn messenger was still in its prime

yeah no, ill stick with rapidly changing technologies rather than sticking to that for some misplaced sense of “stability”

the apps do provide significant benefits… it’s not just “because data”

i’m not so sure it’s just evil people being evil

i think it’s just us vs them, which basically has roots in greed, power over others, etc

i think you could probably overturn those things with better instilled skills of long term planning, understanding of things like game theory (sometimes giving something to someone helps both of you! it’s not rewarding laziness: it can be selfish and humane)

i just think the reasoning here doesn’t go further than the initial emotion… there’s been no reinforcement that maybe your first reaction isn’t the right one

“make sure you wipe your feet kids!”

some people say
in god we trust
with knowledge, trust is not necessary: you know

you’re assuming though that the virtual worlds wouldn’t help to solve (or at least make irrelevant) those things

virtual worlds would likely be significantly more efficient than reality: if you don’t need to make physical products because you only need software and 3d models, manufacturing for most things just evaporates… less extracting resources from the earth, less energy spent refining resources and assembling parts, etc… no need for lighting, entertainment and social venues, office space… people would need far smaller houses so when they do need to travel, it’s probably going to be somewhere much closer to them - and for that matter, why travel?

perhaps lots of our worlds problems fall away when people can have whatever they like - when we aren’t competing with each other, and exist in a (virtual) world of plenty, perhaps some of societies more intractable problems will just cease to be problems. i’m not saying that would happen, and i don’t have any citations, but i’d say it’s certainly possible

what’s so special about the real world? if your experiences are fundamentally the same thing, why does it matter if it’s a real or a virtual experience? certainly there are things we can’t do virtually - scientific advancement and generally discovery likely requires some interaction with the real world, but even than could be done via interfaces to the outside world rather than specifically existing all the time in the real world

the server requirements of fediverse instances isn’t that high… plenty of people just run hobby servers! as long as we keep that process pretty interesting that could just continue to be the case: people hosting the instances just as a hobby and not expecting a return!

i have a joco cup and it’s great! glass and silicone; doesn’t leak ever that’s for sure

hey that’s fine! that money goes back to the city to help people!

you’re missing the fact that google chat and XMPP is a totally different situation… they used an open protocol; they didn’t open their backend

sure, but an open source UI isn’t going to change that… they’d just close the source!

sure you can fork it, but you can also just copy the UI to an open source clone

imagine if twitter were activitypub: kinda like having an OSS backend with a proprietary front end… i’d bet the move to mastodon would be far quicker… network effects keep people on twitter… same here with OSS backend: we can reimplement the UI and people will have the same experience

choice is king

for some things, sure... but for other things i'll take snapshots, dedupe, etc... i'll put my system disk on a fancy new filesystem and keep my user data on something more mundane for sure! that allows snapshot and restore of major upgrades with basically no effort

yeah... pragmatism beats purity every time: they're doing some great work, but to do that great work they have to fund it somehow... i think that open sourcing all of the functional components (the bridges) and keeping the shiny UI closed is a pretty good way of doing that!

i guess i get not wanting to used closed source clients too, but it's shades of grey: people shouldn't hate on them for keeping 1 part closed source!

so i just did a quick search and apparently

Starting with Gitea 1.19, Gitea Actions are available as a built-in CI/CD solution.

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also they support being a package repo, including container registry

the juxtaposition of these comments is perfect

their clients are proprietary but it’s built on matrix (federated chat kinda like xmpp) and their bridges (things that connect matrix to other protocols) are open source

they say you can use any matrix client, and that you can host your own home server with their bridges