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  • He can’t win as a democrat. He’s behind Jim Justice 32-54. That’s a 22 point spread. He loses 16 points if he goes I. This is him trying to save a flagging campaign.

    Honestly, I wish he’d go I and the dems pull his committees and his funds, and send them to races they have a chance of winning with candidates who will not extort them in an ongoing power play.

  • I don’t see how he’s a good bet to win. He’s 22 points behind his republican opponent, Jim Justoce. Manchin is polling at 32% to Justice’s 54. If he runs an an I, his support drops by half to 16%. I don’t see how his seat doesn’t flip anyway.

    2024 is expected to be a loss for the Dems. The money is better spent on the winnable seats with Texas of all places being a possible flip. If 2024 goes like 2022 did, it’s a possibility. The Rs hung the abortion albatross around their own neck.

  • Your observations are correct about what he supports, your characterization of the American political spectrum is not.

    All democrats support lgbt rights. That’s like saying a republican is center right because they voted for a tax cut. It’s the default position in the party. The same with abortion. In fact, Biden has even said that as a Catholic he’s personally against abortion, but he’s for a woman’s right to choose. That’s the right wing position on the democratic side. Even on the lgbt front, he’s been extremely uninvolved. He’s done okay, but nothing remarkable, especially in the face of the injustices our community is facing. The same with unions and green energy.

    And you know why it’s not only not center-left by the standards of the democratic party, it’s also in keeping with the majority of American citizens. LGBT rights and abortion rights are supported by the vast majority of Americans. It’s the republican party that has moved to the far right and invented wedge social issues, like lgbt rights as a political football. I’ve been active in the lgbt rights movement for more than thirty years, and this is socially as bad as it has been since the 90s. We’re heading back towards Anita Bryant.

    That might be the default republican politician’s position, but that does not define the political spectrum within the democratic party nor does it define the political spectrum of America.

  • It’s possible that Trump will get a guilty verdict in one of his felony trials between Super Tuesday in March and the national convention in July. It’s likely that Trump will have the election sewn up by Super Tuesday. The trial news will be a shitshow in any case.

    They made the Leopards Ate My Face final boss when they refused to go after Trump for his multiple criminal conspiracies. They were so afraid of losing in 2020 that they went all in to support him, because they ceded the voters to him, because at the end of the day they have no policies to sell. It’s just the fear, and Trump does that better than all of them put together.

    So honestly, I don’t think they can win with Trump. There are states (and seats) where a shift of 5% of Rs and something similar in Is will flip the state, and Dems have been on a gotv speed run with the abortion laws on the table. I don’t think the poll models are going to take into account just how weird this election will be.

    On the other hand, they have fucking DeSantis. DeSantis couldn’t defeat anyone. Still, some of those DeSantis voters are never going to support Trump, so even if DeSantis drops out, he won’t get 100% of the DeSantis (or other) supporters.

  • Biden and Clinton are center-right democrats. Buttigieg is center-right to center. Bloomberg is a right wing democrat. Warren and Sanders are center left to left. Tulsi Gabbard is not on the chart. Manchin and Sinema are not on the chart.

    They should pull his funding and his assignments and send them where they can do more good. The republicans shot themselves in the foot by overplaying the culture war thing. They lost on abortion in almost every race. Shit, they lost on an off year special ballot initiative in freaking Ohio just because it would pertain to abortion in a future election - it wasn’t even mentioned on the ballot, even though they tried to deny it was about preventing a popular vote on keeping abortion legal. Everyone just knows by now that they’re lying about that kind of thing, because they just can’t back away from the issue.

  • I think the Dems are better off cutting him loose and spending the election money in a purple state on a seat they can flip. Tell Manchin to get bent and spend those resources on something that will get you votes in the senate, not drama and extortion.

    Besides, whether D or I, he’s going to lose the election. Backing him is just throwing good money after bad. Pull his committee memberships and let him keep a seat warm until he’s voted out.

  • Here’s the fun part. Super Tuesday is March 5th. It’s extremely possible that Trump will have secured the nomination by then. The convention is July 15th. They may be going into the convention committed to a presidential candidate who has been found guilty of multiple felonies.

    And they know it.

    And they just can’t help themselves.

  • I deleted the app, but I also went back and deleted all of my comments across all of my accounts going back 10+ years.

    Content (specifically, moderated content) is the entire value proposition for reddit or any social network. Everything reddit-the-company does is based on serving up that content, which their users generate and moderate for free. Anything else is just trying to cash in on that. I ended up deleting tens of thousands of posts because I don’t want to add value to a service that I wouldn’t even think about supporting.

  • That’s actually what some of us were predicting would happen. We would expect a metric like “quality posts per user” to follow something like the 80:20 rule - 80% were created by 20% of the users. If those users and mods were skewed in the direction of the strongest detractors/leavers, you’d find the average quality would indeed go down.

  • For me, MySpace, Yahoo, Friendster, even AOL have shown that sites need users more than users need sites. Elon is starting to discover that too. I don’t know if these moves are going to be enough to turn reddit into the next used-to-be social media site, but the moves they’re pulling seem to show they’re circling the drain. I don’t think we’re going to get the big flushing sound like we’re hearing with twitter, but I do think spez is going to find out that he has been confused about what he’s selling.

    Ads are not the product. Users are not the product. Those are byproducts. Content and moderation is the product without which a site turns into a chan board with a worse UI.

  • The interesting wrinkle is not necessarily about “the majority of users” caring. It’s whether the content creators and moderators care to the point that the people bailing on reddit are drawn largely from the people who actually produce value.

    If 80% of reddit users just browse or post one liners and 20% are the mods and users who generate the content and keep communities from going off the rails, that would be roughly in line with what we’d expect in an online community. If the people bailing out are mostly coming from that 20%, then post and community quality will decrease, which will eventually decrease users and other KPIs. That was the point of the blackputs and demoderation protests. I deleted all of my posts on all of my accounts before leaving for that reason.

    The 80% might not care about the abstract, but when content falls off, they’ll find another site. It’s like Reddit: The Muskening

  • I think that memmy is showing a lot of progress, but I’ve been getting better search results from mlem, so I’m using both right now. I think a couple more might be out for iOS right now (just grabbed liftoff).

    I’m another one of those Alien Blue -> Apollo -> gtfo users. I never would have even signed up for reddit if it wasn’t for third party apps because their UI was terrible in every iteration and implementation, and I was a regular user for over ten years.