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  • I don't want to ruin your little gish gallop, but the act of "home invasion" is fundamentally different in the UK and the US.

    You and your little pro-gun cult friends have ensured that criminals have easy, widespread access to handguns, turning "somebody stole my iPad" into "somebody stole my iPad and then shot me in the spine".

    You've had over 20 years to prove your bullshit claims of "guns prevent crime" and not only are crimes not significantly prevented, you've created a massive excess of far more serious crimes.

  • Coming at me citing suicide stats in a crime discussion, nice

    Suicide victims aren't even cold before the pro-gun community sweeps them under the nearest rug, desperately hoping that if they're quick enough, nobody will notice that means reduction is extremely effective in suicide prevention.

    You're still more likely to be shot by someone, it's just the "someone" might be you.

    But it'll never be one of your kids with one of your guns, will it buddy?

  • Meaning you're 4x more likely to be shot by someone than assaulted during a burglary

    You're wasting your breath. Gun owners are extremity selective about the statistics they choose to care about.

    If they're supplying them, they're usually bullshit and if they're demanding them, it's usually sealioning. Their fixation on numbers vanishes the moment those numbers don't say what they want.

    He can vomit up all the numbers he wants but if guns actually solved the problem, America would have the lowest crime rate in the world. Instead, they have crime rates that are practically identical to countries with comparitive levels of wealth and education.

    Only in America, there's a layer of murder on top of every crime, because "responsible gun owners" keep arming criminals with their unsecured firearms and dogshit laws.

  • They claim "well-regulated" means "properly functioning" and not "subject to regulations", but how functional is a militia of morbidly obese men with no combat training, no psychological assessments and no demonstrated ability to use or safely handle a weapon, who probably enthusiastically voted for the government that needs overthrowing?

    They're children claiming they need a PlayStation 5 "for homework".

  • He's in touch with reality, he's just manipulating people.

    They have definitely crunched the numbers on cleaner alternatives -- both real and bullshit ones -- but found them to be ultimately less profitable and therefore something they'll never, ever do.

    He wants us to fix it for him by overpaying for electricity, ensuring their record profits continue to grow, squeezing every stone for every drop of blood.

    If we don't, he'll watch the human race choke and starve from his lavishly appointed doomsday bunker, telling them "this is your fault for being so greedy".

  • Firearms were used in 40% of the terrorist acts

    Making them the most commonly used weapon by a significant margin, with arson coming in at only 25%

    So again, I'd like to see a source with proof that firearms are being used in acts of terrorism to kill specifically minorities at a rate of every few months

    Are you sure that's what you want? Because it looks to me like you're pretty eager to hold casual speech to rigorous statistical standards (which is textbook sealioning).

    You also fixated on it rather than address "if arming minorities worked, why are they no safer in America than Canada, Australia or the UK?", a concept you clearly haven't applied demanded the same standard of proof for.

    I just don't think it's an argument to be used against arming yourself.

    You'd think guns failing to deliver on their promise to save minorities for 50 years would be all the argument you'd need but if you'd prefer to get in an arms race with the far-right, you do you.

  • According to the ADL, there were 40 acts of terrorism attributed to the far-right in 2020-2022. So "every few months" was actually an understatement, but I doubt that's what you objected to.

    You can follow the link to learn more about who America's gun laws actually arm. Anyone who supports those laws staying unchanged (or made more permissive) inherently supports selling guns to those people since identifying and disarming extremists is a form of gun control.

  • If that worked, America would be the safest country in the world for minorities (and by a huge margin). Instead, every few months a far-right extremist uses their legally purchased gun to kill as many minorities as they can.

  • it's real interesting that you said "you" not "us" at the start of your second paragraph

    Something that doesn't seem to worry you when a poster is simping for the gun lobby.

    But this isn't some 'gotcha' moment. I'm not trans and won't use a sock puppet to pretend otherwise.

    what the fuck industry lobby doesn't bankroll republicans?

    Exclusively Republicans and nearly exclusively far-right ones? Very few. There's no need to be rhetorical about it since it's easy to look up.

    if they're gonna kill us anyways, I see no reason not to go down fighting

    You'll likely be dead before you even know the fight started because guns favor the aggressor.

    If you do manage to shoot your way out of it, you'll be labelled as one of the "LGBT extremists" they're desperately trying to create and hunted for the rest of your life, endangering the entire trans community in the proccess.

    Fox News isn't telling their far-right viewers how dangerous you are to protect you.

  • Since I see "marginalized groups should buy guns" comments constantly on Lemmy, please remember that gun sales bankroll the $18 million per year in "donations" that the gun lobby makes to the very worst Republicans.

    They'll also use that gun as an excuse to kill you. That's why they're pushing the idea of "LGBT extremists" in the first place. It gives far-right fuckstains a chance to claim "I saw a pride pin and a holstered gun and thought they were going to do a mass shooting so I executed them on the street before they could".

  • It's also because "the free market will fix it" is neoliberal bullshit that is pushed precisely because it doesn't work. It's just a way of blaming consumers for the horrifically immoral actions of corporations and they've suckered you right in.

    Regulations could immediately stop Nestle using child slaves, no boycotts required.