PhilipTheBucket @ PhilipTheBucket @ponder.cat

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Please accept our apologies, our country is trying to die though. It's kind of all we can think about.

Pretty much every modern election system tabulates the ballots electronically, but keeps around the paper ballots for random recounts or investigations. The only reason not to have the paper involved is if you're cheap / incompetent / don't care about election security, or if you specifically want to steal the election.

If the accusation are accurate, then the amount that is confirmed by a comically and flagrantly obvious amount of blatant fraud is limited to one county that we know of.

Sure, it could be that one county and no other. Why are you assuming that it definitely is limited to just that county though?

1. Because they want to know who you are
2. Because what are you going to do about it? They're going to make money regardless

One or the other

https://librewolf.net/

Not even sure what you're talking about, and also, no ads on YouTube. Whenever I enter the internet without it, it's alarming at this point.

Yes, you are right. In that totally different and unrelated context it would be weird. Since this is the internet where replying to people is pretty normal and expected I have no idea what the fuck you're trying to say.

I will no longer take part in this conversation. I wish you the best with coming over time to understand things better though.

I love how sincere he is about really emphasizing how worthless the product is.

I would really encourage everyone to go to https://www.berries.com/ just to see that the same uncanny valley person who wrote the ad copy is still making images for the site.

Also, a hundred and nine dollars for twenty-four strawberries?

Bill was right, man. Spending over a hundred dollars on not very many strawberries to give to your father is definitely not going to make his heart swell with happiness to be your dad. He's going to think "Jesus Christ I raised a person who can't function."

If the gimmick accounts start talking about Kamala Harris, talking up Tucker Carlson, whatever, I’m absolutely going to “try and get a conversation” with them, I.e. respond to the shitpost.

Don’t try to turn this around like I’m the one who’s being weird. Like I said, if someone wants to run a “gimmick accounts” that doesn’t insert weirdly incongruous commentary on politics that doesn’t really hold up if you examine it, this kind of problem where people start having suspicion about the politics they’re airing and the way they’re participating, will not happen, and they can just make their shitposts free of people responding to it or having opinions on it.

A: Shit posts about Kamala Harris

B: Asks question about Kamala Harris because it seems like they're talking nonsense about Kamala Harris

A: "WHOA man uncool"

I put this in the same category as people who instigate a fight and then claim they were only kidding around and why are you taking this so seriously, it's not that deep, WTF man why are you acting crazy, when someone responds with aggression to their aggression. In this case it is literally asking a question. If you don't want to talk about politics, don't post about politics, it is easily done.

it’s a waste of time

I disagree. I've learned a lot about politics by talking with people I disagree with, on and off the internet. Sometimes they know stuff I didn't know, and if they actually have backing for it, they're worth listening to and often learning from.

Of course, that may or may not apply to what you or OP posted. Those, I think, are wastes of time (because of the conduct of one person in the conversation), yes.

Yes, but it's conversation. The two people may or may not agree after any amount of conversation, maybe they won't even agree on the reality of what policies she even enacted or talked about enacting, but they can talk about specific policies and realities. It moves people towards understanding, especially the people watching who can sort of identify patterns of who's consistent and is willing to provide evidence for what they're saying, and who's just kind of gibbering and changing the subject and making attacks.

If both people are just doing the gibbering, or doing pure accusations (like you're doing) about what the other person would have done with a reasonable response, then that never happens, and no one learns anything. To me, the most relevant part about the whole thing is that one person at least seems roughly open to the idea of talking about the underlying facts, and one person is just ignoring questions and making accusations with no pretense at all of being open to backing up what they're saying.

Which is why I said the person who is explicitly rejecting the idea of even approaching that kind of factual or reasonable exchange would be right at home on Lemmy.

I think I know the person you mean lol

And yes, they're nuts.

The other person could easily have listed out a bunch of center-right policies in answer to the question. Whether or not the question was rhetorical is (in addition to being impossible to determine) kind of irrelevant to me. The fact that Sun Tzu guy specifically ignored an easy opportunity to take the conversation in the direction of facts and logic, and justifications or lack thereof, is the heart of the issue. Instead they went for the snarky dishonest comeback, which benefits no one and doesn't help anyone learn anything or pick a side.

I don’t think they were really asking for an example.

They literally did. They really asked for an example. It's in the words that they used, which is the only relevant factor for determining whether or not they asked for an example.

I mean they weren't shy about saying also that they were having trouble understanding the thought process to such an extent that they felt like it was ragebait. I mean maybe that's not productive to do. But staking out your own point of view while also asking honest open questions about the other person's point of view and asking for clarification and details is pretty much how productive conversation happens. Just coming out of the blue as "do you have an example?" and only that, can be mischaracterized in exactly the same way and met with the same 100% unproductive response (and often is), so why bother shying away from it, is my feeling.

"Your argument doesn't completely make sense, can you explain more and give an example?"

"LOL I guess some people are just closed minded"

Sounds like Sun Tzu guy would be right at home on Lemmy

The genuine version of this: Shari's Berries

Edit: "I'm sure you have... wonderful... chocolate covered berries."

There’s usually one of the buttons you can hold down to mute the ads, near the bottom right in the little phalanx of buttons all around the screen.

If you find it, label it “MUTE” in marker or something, spread the word.

No, no. Everyone who isn't Elon Musk just doesn't remember anything they're ordered not to remember.

"But I rem--"

SHUT THE FUCK UP OR I'LL TAKE AWAY YOUR ALLOWANCE YOU WHORE

"I'm not--"

I SAID SHUT THE FUCK UP

If the logistics of the trip make it realistic, trains are infinitely better in every respect.

Real human-sized tables. Plugs for charging. No security, no entering a whole other little authoritarian world where people make you take your shoes off and throw away your water. Get up and walk around. Go get a sandwich! The world is your oyster. Watch cool stuff going past (this one can also be true on airplanes but is more intermittent). It's just better.

No idea about tools although I hope you find something.

Two related suggestions that will change your life:

1. Grunt Fund if you are making decisions about equity
2. Have people estimate the total time for a task, rigidly enforce that every man-hour spent on a project has to be allocated to one of those tasks (including the elusive but vital "oh shit we forgot" task), keep track of the coefficient between the two. It'll be different for different people sometimes. When estimating a project, have people come up with estimates and then multiply by the coefficient. Be transparent with everyone about this system. It'll revolutionize your project management life once people get used to it. I tried to find a blog post which explains more detail, but honestly, it's not complicated, and Google is too shit now to find it.