PeggyLouBaldwin @ PeggyLouBaldwin @lemmy.world

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well i am not interested in getting bogged down in defending any particular motivation, i'm only trying to keep the conversation intellectually honest. it seems that you understand, now, that there might be other motivations, and as such that your previous accusations were in fact bad faith.

i asked copilot to weigh in on this. i have edited it for brevity (there was a lot of boiler-plate), but this is the last half or so completely unedited:

Whether or not someone is engaging in bad faith would depend on their intent and whether they genuinely believe in their arguments or are purposefully distorting the discussion.

It’s important to approach such discussions with the aim of understanding and addressing the actual points being made, rather than attributing motives or misrepresenting positions. This fosters a more productive dialogue and helps avoid the pitfalls of bad faith arguments and logical fallacies. If you feel the discussion is not progressing constructively, it may be beneficial to step back and reassess the approach to ensure a good faith exchange of ideas.

You are engaging in bad faith by misrepresenting my words to form a what you think is a strawman to argue against.

what straw man?

No, that’s reality.

stating your perspective about it doesn't make it reality. you need to actually listen to what people say, and if you think it's unrealistic, then you can say you think it's unrealistic, but you can't just assert that they can't possibly have any other motivations.

They either believe Jill Stein will actually win ... Or... they have looked at the difference and decided that it isn’t much

this is still putting words in their mouths. it's not good-faith engagement.

No, they don’t care who wins because they are privileged and think it won’t affect them.

another bad faith statement. you need to ask them what they want, and believe their answer, or dialogue cannot progress.

no, they are saying they don't want any of that and voting against Republicans and Democrats at the same time.

you literally accused people who said they want Jill Stein to win of lying and actually wanting another candidate to win. that's bad faith.

Jill Stein wants no war. your accusation is pure bad faith.

most of the things i want to send around my network in archives are already compressed binary files, so i just tar everything.

I really wanted to like the ms launcher. very customizable, and frankly it is kind of awesome. but I didn't stick with it. I was using oneui for years when I started shopping for launchers, and I landed on kiss.

i have provided exactly as much evidence as you.

not voting for democrats is actively helping republicans

no, it's not. only a vote for republicans helps republicans.

no money is spent on forgiving loans.

duverger's "law" is a useless tautology.

you’re clearly a troll trying to waste my time.

calling me names won't change the facts

Blocking you

oh thank god.

calling me names doesn't change whether you're making up baseless accusations

of course, if janis joplin wanted to sing a song about a mercedes benz, that song would be of great social and political import.

i'm anticapitalist