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  • Bluestacks is full of Ads and junk. But it has actual additions to make it work with a keyboard. Waydroid wasnt able to register multi-input for me, which makes basically any game unplayable.

    But the android app smart autoclicker is the perfect replacement for bluestacks things.

  • BlissOS Zenith didnt boot for me poorly, and other versions are slightly outdated. But I will try another one.

    Waydroidnruns a rootful LXD container I think, which is not isolated at all. An OCI image ran through Podman would be way better.

  • I mean, Waydroid works fine with Aurorastore and even Playstore. Sure that may break, but all that capitalist "we buy licenses" BS of course costs money

  • Lol makes sense. Meta being really meta here, but if thats needed... better too much than too little

  • You shouldnt need Flatseal as Flatpaks should have as little restrictions as need to make them work properly.

    This is an app problem, on Android all apps start with 0 permissions and many work completely without.

    I maintain a list of flatpak apps following modern standards. Those dont just work because their sandbox is full of holes, but because they are adapted to use portals etc.

    So Flatseal is used to harden flatpaks, not weaken them, normally.

    that it would make my backups and restores take 900% longer and would rinse my data when they need updating.

    You mean their storage space? Yes, biggest problem. Not very well solved tbh compared to android where all apps are also sandboxed but they have sizes of 30MB or something.

    Flatpaks should be preferred over many other formats though, as they just work, dont touch the system and are more secure, unlike Appimages.

    I highly recommend to watch this talk that some commenter mentioned

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4_TXZJw3rU

  • Most things already work. You know, desktops need to start with that, they need to implement popups for these permissions. And I guess apps also dont ask for permissions yet (like they do with Pipewire access), they just take it or fail.

    So its again a problem of adapted apps.

    Storage is all stored in ~/.var/app/ and could be duplicated etc if you really want to. That would require some hacking, but you could have multiple profiles for apps. Tbh this is not hard to do at all, just rename the app folder to "appname-profile" and rename the active folder back to the apps name.

    A GUI for that would be interesting.

    Browsers are a big example of good native packaging, as they get most attention. But for example on Debian, or Ubuntu, or many other platforms, I would prefer to use Flatpak Firefox (if firefox didnt have their deb repo now).

    Chromium is hacky as Flatpak as the Sandbox is imcompatible and needed to be replaced.

    For firefox there is no statement about this, hopefully soon. I use native browsers for the same reason as you.

  • The AUR is not verified or audited at all, isnt it? So you need to check every release if that script was modified to download something malicious. For sure this works somehow, but idk how.

    And sandboxing... flatpak has GUI tooling unlike anything else. Bubblejail is usable.

  • They use proprietary firmware, dont they?

  • Yes thats what I meant. Very cool concept.

  • Flatpaks dont touch the system, which makes them a perfect addition to a Debian Base. Tbh I think Windows is the best example that this works, stable, boring base, and no software is stable for no reason. They outsource the work and the software even installs and updates in random ways, but it is always up to date which never breaks the system.

    But to be fair I am not a Debian user. I would consider it when being an admin for many clients that want a stable system. But I would install all apps from Flathub then, to have them up to date and not years old.

  • Yes thats true. But that talk specifically mentioned the horrible security practice of appimages, and that they dont run everywhere at all

  • Okay fair point. Piracy, illegal content etc. will all get removed from Flathub.

    Similar to another comment about archiving software that may get removed

  • Developers of often proprietary software think its a good format and only support that. This is a problem

  • Welcome to security I guess

  • Thanks! Will look into that

  • I think this is possible, just install it for now. There are .flatpak files

  • Flatpak has a good package manager?

    Read the other comments etc. No motivation to repeat everything