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Yes, it is their fault the nazis viewed them as subhuman and exterminated them in a way they didn't do with the conquered French. /s
Yes, I think our democratic processes could be better in many countries.
No, we do not have democracy. We have bourgeois democracy that cannot be reformed into democracy.
What is bourgeois democracy?: https://www.leftvoice.org/bourgeois-democracy-what-do-marxists-mean-by-that-term/
If you are skeptical of the inability to reform bourgeois democracy I would do some reading on Allende and Chile.
And you think the numerically inferior soviet troops -who did better than the larger more mechanized and better equipped French and British troops- while also fighting a larger better equipped force demonstrates....
The point of this exercise is for you to find the numbers and experience a moment of self reflection. What I think of the credibility of the numbers doesn't matter.
You won't though. One has to wonder why?
No, capitalism vs socialism is; who owns the means of production, the capitalist class or the working class?
Okay, then go find other sources for these numbers:
- Number of axis troops invading France
- Number of French and British commonwealth troops during the initial defense of France
- Number of axis troops invading the Soviet Union
- Number of Soviet troops during the initial defense of the Soviet Union
Do you think your bourgeois democracy is actually democratic? If you are for democracy you'd be a socialist.
Literally just look up the numbers on Wikipedia(or whatever other center-right source you consider credible) and stop embarrassing yourself.
Remind me how many French and British troops were bypassed and encircled during the invasion of France?
Remember that the combined forces in France were much larger and more mechanized than the soviet army during barbarossa, and were invaded by less troops
Yeah countries which the US has couped in my parent's lifetimes are more democratic than Cuba, where residents sometimes complain that the government consults them too much and which regularly has referendums over measures refined up from local committees everywhere until they have a measure to vote on. (See: family code)
Why would I need to seriously argue against what is essentially tropes, including the asiatic hordes trope? Your argument speaks for itself.
Compare the size of the soviet army at the start of the war to the size of the French and German armies. Now compare the Soviet delaying actions to the invasion of France.
They defeated the Nazis by throwing conscripts into a meat grinder regardless of whether they even had a weapon, and by threatening to shoot them if they tried to retreat.
You are mistaking the movie enemy at the gates for a history lesson, or are absorbing myths that ultimately originate with that movie.. During particularly desperate times troops would have to split rifles during training. General order 227 created penal detachments for officers who kept ordering retreats without cause, and created blocking units to turn back retreating units. They weren't machine gunning conscripts in the back.
Also even if not one step back was as US propaganda claims, every step back allowed the nazis more population to exterminate or enslave. The Soviets lost 19 million civilians, exterminated by the nazis.
The USSR killed 80-ish percent of the nazi troops, and suffered 26 million casualties, mostly civilians exterminated by the nazis. They were mainly responsible for the victory and suffered the heaviest losses, including a lot of the lower level communist organization whose absence lead to the bureaucratic centralization (that Stalin opposed heavily before his death) that let corruption gradually take over the project.
Weird how the socialist command economies lead to a massive increase in literacy, life expectancy, women's rights, access to education, doctors per person, decreased infant and maternal mortality, I could go on.
Almost like there is a difference between a capitalist command economy like the nazis did and a socialist command economy. Wonder what the difference between those three word phrases are, hmmmmm 🤔🤔🤔
Its why they defeated the nazis, who had a 50-100 year industrialization lead when the USSR started doing a command economy. The USSR also ended up liberalizing, especially in its last decade, creating the circumstances for a coup that resulted in balkanization and massively decreased living standards.
And all Eastern European countries experience explosive growth post communism?
This is counterfactual
The soviet economy was insane(ly good)!
https://youtu.be/Hcl3R-yARX8?si=Z2Us5pkG9a7FBPUw
Well sourced easily digestible video on it.
You're going to need to show that you have a serious understanding here or you're going to need to stop posting on the topic in this comm.
Except a lot of anarchist theory rejects scientific socialism as a methodology. Is there any mainstream anarchism that is rooted in dialectical materialism?