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  • People said conceptually the same thing before he was elected the first time. The pictures of him besides Epstein, the accusations including one by a then-14-year-old girl that he raped her (she was in that photo too, or or at least others at the same party by Epstein), his own rather damning words seeming to support such actions, the fact that he rarely pays his workers, ALL the MANY court cases... we've seen ALL of this before.

    And this time is different. The last time, they voted more for not-Hillary, but this time, many people want to vote specifically for him!? Don't underestimate the number of those who voted for Bernie Sanders in the primary but who then flipped to vote for Trump in the general election. Will this repeat now, for people upset at Biden's treatment of Israel, or how bad the economy is right now (despite the laws that Republicans passed making it this way, plus genocidally inept handling of the pandemic scenario)? Yes, plus also those who would vote Republican regardless, plus ALSO those who would have voted for Trump personally even if he had run as an independent.

    So what if they start taking his properties away? That would simply drive him to spend MORE rather than less time on the campaign trail?

    I strongly question this conclusion, especially from a site that just wants people to click so they'll say whatever they can to get that to happen. Best for what purpose - him losing the upcoming election? Well, just like the last time, we'll see.

  • How long until we reach recursion-ception? :-P

  • hmmmm

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  • If you want to be a true masochist, you could re-run the experiment on Reddit - hurk 🤮.

    The beauty of Lemmy is that here we can at least talk about such neat things:-).

  • Tbf their world was about to end, so uh... yes please!:-P

  • This was true only ~15 years ago. My how things have changed. The Tea Party replaced the old progressives, where like GW Bush even provided government funding to feed the homeless, teach kids, etc. Then even before that finished happening the Alt Right took over from the inside. Now I don't even know what to call the latest movement, although it seems to no longer matter if it is already over and the Alt Right is back in power with Trump at the helm again.

    I have heard that the person most single-handedly responsible for the rift before all that was Newt Gingrich, who proposed the hard-line stance of obstructionism, where after that cooperation was seen as weak while before that it was a strength.

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  • This comment section is politics in action! :-P

  • It's literally brainwashing techniques: if you repeat something often enough from an "authoritative" source then the information bypasses logical skepticism and many (more than half) of people just accept it as truthful.

    It's a great adaptation for energy savings actually - e.g. engineers MUST use this principle on a daily basis when working in a team environment, or else nothing would ever get done. Even scientists whose literal job is to question EVERYTHING don't re-examine every single precept every single time (is this water that I am adding now? okay now, I am moving my right hand, but is it really MY hand, in the grand scheme of things?:-P oh no, the thing I just picked up, a second ago, is it still the same thing now?).

    i.e. active disinformation is extremely destructive, and most people today seem to have few defenses against it. Especially when religion is co-opted as the delivery mechanism.

  • I can't believe that this pivotal video is nearly a decade old now - and nothing in this respect has changed, except the parts that somehow got worse.:-(

  • Capitalism-virus is the part that scares me the most. :-(

  • Thanks so much for the info - I'll save it and check it out, it does look neat!:-)

  • I'm a relative newcomer myself, just from the time of the protests, and yeah I am also making multiple accounts. My Kbin one I even gave up on almost entirely, but you never know when it may come in handy:-).

    I wonder how much of the development issues are related to the choice of languages, if it unnecessarily restricts the number of people who can help, or the political stance of the originator turning people away who are unwilling because of that. But Kbin, Mbin, and other spin-offs are happening, and even Threads and whatnot, so it does seem to be happening, just slowly.

    And the interface is somewhat good even now, okay so not quite so "stable" but as you said, that was mostly from DDoS so understandable that it could take some greater difficulty to turn those away.

    I expect great things in its future:-).

    But either way I'm not likely to leave. (And even if I did, I still would never return to Reddit!:-P)

  • But it was damn funny regardless!:-P

  • I wouldn't mind if like I told my phone to send out a signal "I am a man, but I like cold tea". Partnering together with the machine to help me buy something I will enjoy is truly helpful.

    Consent makes all the difference in the world.

  • Ofc it could have been benign, but there is no evidence that it was, while conversely everything that we currently know points to a breach of ethics.

    One, they did not fully disclose that a camera was even there (unless I am mixing up this story with another one just like it?). That also makes it impossible to...

    Two, they did not obtain proper (or any) consent. A banking ATM that needs to use your face to verify your identity could be an example of a benign use, and ignoring the enormous potential security implications of that atm, it could do so with a popup on the screen "Do you consent to having your face observed?", "Do you consent to storage of your facial data in our database?", "Do you consent to us selling the marketing data we collect from analysis of your facial data?". They did none of this.

    Three, when asked about it, they lied. Technically they obfuscated the truth, which is just another way of stating that they lied.

    Ofc it COULD have been benign, but so far they are zero out of three already towards that end - and that is even from just what we know so far.

  • Their corporate website mentions that they use the data for marketing purposes. Whatever type of face they see - e.g. male or female, large or skinny, etc. - gets correlated with what was purchased, and then they sell that data for marketing purposes. Exactly like Google selling your search history, except with likely fewer restrictions in place.

    Their website doesn't mention how often they get hacked to give away that data for free - to be clear, that data meaning A PICTURE OF YOUR ACTUAL FUCKING FACE. I don't know what resolution, or even what someone would do with it later, I am focusing here on the fact that the picture taking seems nonconsensual, especially for it to be stored in a database rather than simply used in the moment.

  • This is where John Oliver would jump in to say: except that's not who this is bc one of them is fake.

    And then continue with: except that's a lie bc actually, two are fake!