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OpenStars @ OpenStars @piefed.social Posts 5Comments 1,387Joined 9 mo. ago
OpenStars @ OpenStars @piefed.social
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Thanks for the update - it looks like I need to stop spreading misinformation. Sigh, and Loops as well - people like to generate all this excitement but actually delivering is a whole other matter:-(.
The only way I can think of to break out of that is to not play the game at all - e.g. instead of Windows vs. Mac, make FOSS Linux, and instead of Facebook vs. Reddit, make Lemmy, Mbin, and PieFed. On the other hand, people that already own a house have greater abilities to donate their time to such coding efforts, whereas younger people today... not as much.
There is an actual conservative community there, and just recently a second one was added: https://lemmy.today/post/32360706.
I believe that it follows the natural law of...
Worse: they actively do not care. "I don't know how to [insert business type here], but I know how to manage." Like the former CEO of McDonald's taking over (one of?) the largest pharmaceutical companies in the world. Who needs a PhD, MD, or knowledge of things like biology, medicine, chemistry, physics, etc., when you know how to uh... what was the goal again? Oh yes: "make number go up".
flarum (edit: this one seemingly not yet?), Misskey, Friendica, Mastodon, the list goes on - I don't know so much about non-Threadiverse ones but see e.g. https://fediverse.observer/ for more details. Edit: also nice list at https://joinfediverse.wiki/Fediverse_projects . And another at the sidebar of !fediverse@piefed.social .
Note that Kbin is (semi-)officially dead - there is only a single instance (in Poland, https://bin.pol.social/) that still uses it, and the last commit of its software was on Dec 20, 2023. Everyone else switched to its fork Mbin that is actively maintained. This community really should update its sidebar text, to drop Kbin and add PieFed and Mbin. Kbin was a great idea at some point - I never would have come over to "Lemmy" with its known reputation as the place where many of the trolls went who were banned from Reddit (it's... sigh... actually true), so Kbin was what convinced me to leave Reddit - and now Mbin carries its legacy onwards, but Kbin itself is extinct (I am not trying to be hyperbolic here, it just literally is, as far as actively maintained software goes).
There was also Sublinks but... its development got stalled by the main dev having a baby (its last commits were all in 2024 iirc).
PieFed is the hot topic though - all praise the PieFed. I admit to some bias in this regard:-P, however it is also backed up by the stats: not only do we get enormous updates practically weekly (often at least a minor one multiple times a week), but by comparison Mbin has about 700 MAUs (Monthly Active Users), compared to PieFed's ~1500 (more than twice that). Which should increase rapidly now that app support is in the process of being firmed up, especially experimental support in Voyager the #1 Threadiverse app. Somehow PieFed has surpassed Mbin and even Lemmy in several featured areas - and astonishingly even that of Reddit (whose development for many years now has focused on increasing profits, not necessarily offering things that their user base actually wanted) - mind you it is still being polished, and some (very few) areas still need heavy work (such as the search functionality). On the other hand, it is written in Python, unlike Lemmy that is in Rust (which very few devs know, or want to know it seems, at least among those willing to donate efforts to the codebase), so feature tinkering is expected to proceed at a rapid pace for as long as people have ideas that they want to see added.
Uh oh, we don't allow facts here, only self-congratulating pats on the back... It's okay, you didn't know, but now you do, so no more of that, capiche?
(hugely /s btw, bc some people are probably that far gone for it to be real?:-P)
(but just to mess with people's heads: is it tho? is it REALLY?!?:-P)
They have no incentive to care about the product they're offering because they couldn't care less about it.
I think it's kinda even worse: they'll take a good product and actively make it worse, so it's not mere indifference to it but active hatred towards the wants of the customers, in contrast to the desires of the Board.
Like why change a perfectly good logo? If it serves its purpose, then leave it alone?! But no, line must go up, and even if changing the logo makes it go down, then oh well...
TIL, it's not so much that we step on them as they they throw themselves under our footsteps...
Damn, and this even happens with DuckDuckGo too, I would expect it from Google but even DDG?
There was a poll about it recently, with some high-profile people (like creator of Mbin) saying they were adamant about using Threadiverse.
Other alternatives were proposed like Forumverse or Topicverse, or simply the Verse, but people don't seem excited about switching. Ooh, fediforums?
Some additional references:
- https://szmer.info/post/349217
- https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/93840
- https://discuss.online/search?q=Forumverse&type=Comments&listingType=All&page=1&sort=Old
- https://piefed.social/post/718679
I am guilty of spreading the term Threadiverse around everywhere, though I personally don't care what term we use so long as we pick one and just go with it, which overwhelmingly (even if unfortunately) turned out to be Threadiverse.
When "block" does not mean block, it's time for another round of fact vs. alternative facts!
I hope she was being dramatic! 😨
Diagnosing an issue, on a matter that you feel passionate about, is a first step towards finding a solution for it. So now that you are walking partway down this pathway, I hope that you continue - donate or help directly if that sounds fun to you! :)
And welcome to the Fediverse:).
If you will allow me to respectfully disagree, the mere fact that you can make this post at all is evidence against what you are saying, no?
e.g. Reddit has "posts", which may have links to "YouTube" or "Wikipedia", or to "Tiktok" or "Instagram", or "Facebook" or "LinkedIn", etc. - each of those requires a different account (the former three at least allow anonymous viewing, the middle two make it extremely difficult but it can be done if someone has a link to a specific item of content, while iirc the latter two mandate having an account to view the content at all).
Within each component of the Fediverse, it seems connected to a very high degree? e.g. the one we are discussing this on here now is the Threadiverse, which can be read, interacted with (voted, saved, links sent to) and commented on by people with accounts on any instance running Lemmy, Mbin, or Piefed (among Threadiverse software platforms I have also heard of nodeBB and flarum but I do not know what the current status is of their ActivityPub protocol integration). This level of interactivity is high.
And beyond that, you can interact with it via Mastodon, Misskey, Friendica, etc. Granted, this level of interactivity is much lower... but at least it exists? So it is high compared to not being able to interact with it, if that makes sense? A better phrasing might be that something is better than nothing?
And with effort put in by people donating their time & energies & attention & skills, it will improve. e.g. I am writing this to you from PieFed where new features are added practically every week (in fact it is nowhere close to being uncommon to see changes every other day). So what you are asking - it is happening, right in front of our very eyes! It might just seem slow to someone more used to "capitalistic" rather than socialist endeavors because it is not backed by corporate money that would seek a return on their initial investment, e.g. by selling user data, and instead requires the donations (especially of effort and skill, but money works too!) of individual people.