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My impression is they're decent about making Lemmy a tech project not a personal political platform

But... isn't it impossible to donate solely to the software, when they also will use the funds to pay server costs for lemmy.ml? The referenced post did not exactly highlight that little tidbit of information... yet isn't it true nonetheless?

If the community were going to fork it, they would have forked it by now.

Why bother? Mbin, PieFed, nodebb, flarum, the list of alternatives goes on and on. Lemmy is fairly mature, that's true, but also the devs kept adding new features, so there wasn't a need to fork it. Plus, each individual instance already somewhat "forks" it each time they do an update - what I mean here is that some like Hexbear.net and Lemmy.world have extremely heavy modifications that they have made, affecting only their own instance (to clarify, the latter is more code checking iirc while the former was actual modifications).

If anyone needs to they could fork Lemmy at any time. But who wants to learn Rust, a language that is super difficult yet unfinished, compared to e.g. Python that PieFed uses, or Mbin is PHP (and Sublinks iirc is Java, etc.)?

Best to break away free from Lemmy entirely. Have you noticed how Lemmy is even more authoritian than Reddit? Yes modlog, but no modmail, no notification of a moderation event, no ability to contact a mod to ask why or discuss, no "right" to even know which mod it was - you simply submit your content, and if a mod decides that they don't like it, then it disappears, without leaving a trace (in contrast, Reddit leaves removed posts still accessible to anyone with the URL), or without warning. The closest thing I've ever heard of that is like this is when Reddit "shadow-banned" someone. While on Lemmy, every single post removal is that way. The admins have total control using Lemmy, and mods have a lot, but regular users? Naw, that's a different story... you all get much fewer freedoms than even Reddit offered (usually, unless they actually did shadowban you).

I much prefer PieFed tbh:-). It has a ton of ideas pushing for democratization of moderation features, putting control of such matters into the hands of the individual users rather than forcing mods to have to do all the work of moderation. e.g. if someone doesn't ero see posts containing certain keywords like "Musk" or "Trump", a user can elect to filter those out (the available options there are: All, None, and get this: Some, which is very nice!:-), rather than making a moderator have to decide for the entire community as a whole (they still can do that, but now they don't have to, bc the software provides another alternative for those users who want to, leaving the users who don't want that filtering to see that content, while still sharing the same space, rather than having to make a new community:-).

I am sorry for your bad experience on Lemmy. Most people fall into the same trap, and more often than not, leave altogether. I am currently at 100% of the people that I've told about Lemmy actively chiding me for having done so, due to them having come here, seen that, and immediately noped out.

It doesn't help that Google points people to Lemmy.ml (DuckDuckGo properly points to Lemmy.World, as the most active instance, but lemmy.ml has an older history), which to a guest account shows only Local (rather than globally All) posts, which ofc are full of people making fun of the Western world and society - even to the point of saying that people who do such innocuous activities as having bank accounts should be killed (sadly, I'm not joking, although the people making such claims likely were... and yet... were they, were they REALLY?!).

Nobody likes to be made fun of, so it's no surprise that the likes of Reddit's r/RedditAlternatives is filled with such stories of people encountering such and never coming back. But I am glad that despite Lemmy.ml's efforts to hide it, you managed to find the nicer portions of Lemmy where we can actually enjoy conversations.:-)

What?

PieFed, Mbin, nodebb, flarum - this is a partial listing of the software that does similar to Lemmy, and there's more besides them even (okay so development on Sublinks seems to be exceedingly slow these days, but the code is still there if anyone wants to contribute...).

And this doesn't even begin to touch on the likes of Mastodon, Friendica, Peertube, Pixelfed, Loops (okay tbf this one isn't federating yet iirc, but it planned to?), all of which share people's thoughts and words in a social media atmosphere.

Lemmy isn't the sole competitor to Reddit by any stretch. Heck, a year ago Lemmy.World put out a post (I can find it if you really need me to?) all but outright announcing their intention to switch to Sublinks when it became ready. And at the time that had like 80% of all Lemmy MAUs (monthly active users).

Lemmy is not what makes this place special. The people here are what make this place special. If the people move, then what makes it special will go with them. I personally migrated to PieFed 7 months ago (before it was fully ready), and now that PieFed has surpassed Lemmy in terms of features (e.g. we just added polls and post flairs), I am certain that I am not the only one willing to do so.:-)

You are paying for their programming, not their opinions.

Also, I was going to respond to your original comment but suppose I'll combine it here: you do not seem to be aware that donations also go to support the server costs of Lemmy.ml. Thus, you are in fact paying for their opinions to be spread - they seem to not be offering the choice for others to receive only the code support but not Lemmy.ml?

Check out PieFed - whether you stay with it or not is immaterial, I'm saying that you'll be impressed as fuck with what you see. The sign-up wizard alone will probably make you fall absolutely in love with it. And if not, then the LONG list of features definitely will - e.g. categories of communities, which are user customizable and shareable. Then, even if you decide to keep using your Lemmy account, you'll at least know what is going on with PieFed, which is amazing:-). (The Interstellar app supports PieFed officially, with that coming for Thunder as well.)

Mbin, not Kbin. Kbin is dead.

There actually is one instance left, a tiny little hold-over in Poland, last I checked, but everyone else that was using Kbin has since switched to Mbin.

Except me personally, who switched to PieFed (which is fantastic btw!:-).

I moved to PieFed before it was fully ready, and I've been able to personally defederate from lemmy.ml by blocking all users since I did. No admin approval required. That feature alone was worth it to me to put up with the pain of the platform not being ready yet.

Since then, the platform has greatly improved, and now has many MANY features that Lemmy (and a few that even Reddit) lacks. For example the most recent additions are polls and post flairs. Which tbf Lemmy has plans to add, but features languish in its roadmap for multiple years at a time so I would not expect them anytime "soon". Tbf Rust is a difficult language to work with, but that's just all the more reason to love PieFed, written in Python that many more people can contribute to. Which is what has been allowing it to add new features literally weekly as of late.

PieFed is extremely nice - come check it out! Make an account, and by the time you get through the setup wizard you will already have fallen in love with it.:-)

Mbin is one example, PieFed is another. Both are superb!:-)

Absolutely.

Google used to be better as well. And Reddit. And... well, enshittification affects everything, not just tech, but printers and food containing micro plastics and everything else we can buy.:-(

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As well as, highly ironically, sometimes unnecessary (if you know you know:-P)

I thought for sure you must have misread it, but yeah it's two points UP.

The metrics here are presumably so narrow and incomplete for 2025 as to be absolute misinformation. Relevant quote:

According to the U.S. Press Freedom Tracker, there were 49 journalist arrests in 2024 compared to only 15 in 2023.

And zero recorded for 2025 so far, according to that page.

It's easy when the slaves do all the work! 💪

I think it is to take a nap.

I volunteer to test this theory... for science!

Do, or do not, there is no try.

No no you're thinking of Cheshire's Razor which states that anything that appears wrong is traveling away from you.

They are not - he X/cancelled it.:-P

I am not the person you replied to but I believe they were referring to Homo sapiens being said to have emerged roughly 2-300k years ago, so 0.3 million, not "millions" (plural). Homo the genus might be a mil or two, but not the species, although you said "humankind" thus implying the species.