OccamsTeapot @ OccamsTeapot @lemmy.world

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Not funding genocide =/= perfection

Being able to beat the worst president in history in a debate =/= perfection

Biden is still your best choice.

Unless he drops out, yeah no shit.

Now apparently cuz 3 fucking yokels think hes old we're throwing all rational political thinking out the window to pull a last minute change and you fucking idiots think that can actually win?!??

I will remind you of this in November. If Biden wins, I will happily admit that I was wrong and you were right.

Certainly hyperbole. But there are examples linked and I think anyone paying attention has seen this behaviour, especially since the debate but also previously in response to criticism of his Gaza policy, e.g. "oh so you think Trump would be better?!"

The downvoters are really proving the point here

She's looking at it with the knowledge afterwards that someone is actually going to do it. And not if they have to be sure before they shoot someone. trump rallies are full of idiots climbing on shit and being idiots.

Exactly this. It's really easy to look at the situation afterwards and have trouble believing how it could have gotten that far. But that's because from the outside we don't know how many incidents they have narrowly avoided or how many potential incidents turned out to be nothing.

This is also classic conspiracy theory territory. Could it be that the world is complex and scary? That even trained secret service agents make potentially fatal errors? No, because we can pretend that even though there was a shooter it was all planned and under control. Somehow the idea that things like this are under the control of some malicious enemy is more comforting than the horrible unpredictability of it all in reality.

There was a zero percent chance that some random person with a rifle was able to scale a roof, unless there was just an unbelievable failure of intelligence. And you want to know why it's unbelievable? Because I don't effing believe it. I don't believe it. I want the names of the Secret Service agents that allowed this remarkable security failure to go down, because I don't believe this.

The "school" of hard knocks strikes again. She is still on the same bullshit. Obviously the secret service wanted this to happen, or something 🙄

Yeah they chose quite the time to make the perfect the enemy of the good

Never mind dude, there is a link, but I've already tried to explain it. You were correct in your comment, which I think is all you're bothered about.

I was responding to what you said about what they said. This is generally how conversations go

I was talking about the thing the person you responded to was talking about.

Anyway, this was oddly hostile so I'm out.

I obviously mistook this as a conversation about the upcoming election and Biden's chances, but I can see now that you are purely interested in correcting someone about this one thing, and not about whether or not that has an important impact on Biden's chances.

Yes wow you're right it isn't the "main" source of the discontent. Congratulations.

I didn't say it was the main source of discontent. I just think that being able to win the election is the most important thing. It doesn't have to be the "main" source to cause the problem we're all talking about.

You said this:

Voters simply don't care about Gaza anywhere near as much as they care about literally everything else:

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It shows up in poll after poll after poll. With the exception of chronically online lemmings and less than 10% of Democratic voters, nobody else really cares.

How big were the win margins in 2020 again?

The democrats beat the republicans on a generic ballot by one percent. The fact it gets worse when you add Biden into the mix is very concerning.

It's not like most people are voting for Biden as much as against Trump anyway. They should just open up the field and hopefully change him.

What we want is a cease fire except we don't cease firing.

Yeah sure thing bro

Go Corbyn! Despite all the smears he remains a good person fighting for what is right

Yeah I'm sure Putin's top priority is infiltrating the Linux nerds and Trekkies in their natural habitat. Facebook? Nah. Reddit? Nyet. We need to go where the real action is.

I think this is less of a problem than you're implying