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The roadster was announced in 2017, it's been roughly 8 years since it was announced. They are still working on it, Lars has even said he has something like a weekly meeting about it.

Is that cancelled? No. Is it acceptable for the people who made deposits? Not really.

The 25k model is using their new "unboxed" method, which the Cybercab is also using. They clearly decided to go with the Cybercab first and that's not up for debate, but they are still designing how the unboxed method even works. As they work on the Cybercab and hone the design of unboxed, if they are continually considering how that may impact the 25k vehicle they had originally planned to make in 2026, is that cancelled?

It's not as black and white as you want it to be.

Edit:

What Reuters said was very definitive.

April 5 (Reuters) - Tesla has canceled the long-promised inexpensive car that investors have been counting on to drive its growth into a mass-market automaker, according to three sources familiar with the matter and company messages seen by Reuters.

If they still plan to build a cheaper consumer vehicle using the newer unboxed method and they simply back burnered it a few years in favor of the shared line models then it's not canceled. Canceled (edit or killed) is very specific. There will be no 25k vehicle using the new method they had planned.

Edit: you would need to prove it's actually canceled and that would be difficult. There's a lot of other less definitive language Reuters could have used that would have made what Elon responded with definitely a lie.

Edit: just an example, the 2026 launch of the 25k vehicle was canceled/ killed. That is true. Refuting that is a lie. The 25k vehicle was canceled, is unclear, although this report further substantites it.

If it's true, it's not.

But you'd have to prove it.

Also lots of wiggle room on canceled vs delayed a long time.

No not every province is covered by treaties

Ah, okay then that makes sense

what happens when America takes over

Assuming the chiefs ever agreed I imagine the agreement would need to include its guarantee and any joining with the US (assuming it's not annexing) would need to be honored or the deal couldn't go through.

Do that a couple times to the point the Russians don't believe it, and then use the correct targets expecting the Russians to protect the other nearby targets like last times instead.

Does that take inflation into account? Would seem like closer to negative if not?

Given that look, if you stopped him, youd better get your affairs in order before you go to sleep tonight

You could put a timeout on the hash function so that it can't be abused that way, but then... why not just make a limit so it can't anyway.

Musk: punch me

X: OKAY

Musk: guess that wasn't a great idea...

So this whole, ablerta sovereignty not being legally allowable due to treaties with first nations was the first time I'd heard that.

Is there not the same issue at play in all the other provinces, especially Quebec, or is there something special about the treaties in Alberta?

Not all states use private prisons, and I don't think all state prisons participate in forced labor (although they may all have 'optional' programs)

The optional ones probably vary from truly optional, to we say it's optional but you'll be reprimanded somehow if you don't.

Edit: this random post says 3/4 are forced via threat

https://freedomnetworkusa.org/2023/08/11/forced-labor-in-prisons/

Now I have a reason to over fill them... lol

I wish there was more municipal fiber. It's absolutely insane that the big ISPs fight it and often win.

It depends on the distance, but yes. Those laser interlinks are fast.

The problem with fiber is it isn't direct, and the satellites do use lasers (light!) to travel longer distances. The longer the distance the bigger edge satellite internet gets.

They deorbit every 5 years and burn up in the atmosphere they don't make it to land (although i think i remember a a part of a very early version did and changes were made because it did, but that might have been something else)

There have been a couple launches where some solar radiation caused damage or a problem with the stage 2 and they all came down and burned up before they made their planned orbit. On occasion, there may be a faulty satellite that doesn't reach its proper orbit after launch and instead comes down instead.

Short of an error during launches, it's all planned.

They weren't just paid, they were paid repeatedly and they repeatedly didn't do it.

Starlink can be more direct as well. The further fiber goes the less direct it is. By the time we're talking between continents that builds up a lot.

SMRs should take less than 10 years and the one about to be built will be ready well before that in theory. The problem is they're so new here that even if it works and everything goes according to plan, it's probably a couple decades before it's even begun to scale.