NoneOfUrBusiness @ NoneOfUrBusiness @kbin.social

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Is this even newsworthy anymore?

Okay if I had a friend like that they definitely wouldn't be my friend for long.

I mean in the modern Israeli Nazi-like political climate it's the best we're gonna get.

Now maybe all of that is baseless rumors being spread by braindead Biden cheerleaders

Yes. Israel has been obviously breaking international law, using American weapons (including the infamous 2000 pound bombs) for a while now. Many individual Israeli actions have been called warcrimes by various NGOs, up to and including the UN. If he wanted to do anything he'd have done it already. He also wouldn't match bold-faced Israeli propaganda (like the 40 dead babies debacle).

You have no basis for your assertion that Biden is even doing worse than average, so stop trying to act like it’s an established fact.

I do: Biden is one of the few US presidents who hasn't stopped Israel when they did something this out of proportion. Again, this man is doing worse than Reagan and Bush. Do you understand how low the bar he's failing to meet is?

As an Egyptian, you're overthinking it. Almost all Arabs have a very similar image of Israel because we've seen firsthand (or secondhand from Palestinians) how ridiculously horrible Israel is.

Iran isn't popular with Arabs, but they're much more popular than Israel.

Alright, but do you see this playing out positively for them longer term?

Israel hasn't been thinking of the longer term at least ever since Palestinians got internet access. That was the beginning of the end for their control over Western public opinion, (edit) and you'd have expected them to learn but nope.

Also I think there are probably going to be bad consequences internally assuming a non-insignificant part of the Israelis come to terms with the atrocity committed in their name.

Don't expect too much. To most Jewish Israelis (which are, let's face it, the only ones that matter) Palestinians are subhuman barbarians whose only purpose in life is to be killed for Lebensraum. And their share of the total population is going up, not down. So yeah, don't expect any soul searching in that department.

Well, you just revealed your true colors. Congrats.

Maybe not every president since as you say that requires a lot of evidence and is likely unprovable, but I firmly believe that the majority would've stopped Israel by now. I mean, hell, even objectively horrible people like George Bush and Regan did it. Hell, even Biden did it in 2021. What I want to say is: Biden letting Israel rampage like this is the exception, not the norm. For evidence, I think the fact that Israel has needed to exercise at least a modicum of restraint and not commit actual genocide until now is enough.

Hamas actually is an ideology of genocideal violence and indiscriminate killing of civilians and is Iran’s proxy right on the border of America’s ally and the only democracy in the region.

Man almost half the people Israel rules (Gaza and the West Bank are occupied no matter how much Zionists would like to believe otherwise, source: UN) don't have voting (or human for that matter) rights. And we're seeing them crack down on dissent using extrajudicial (or effectively extrajudicial) arrests as we speak. Democracy my ass.

ran has as its guiding religious and political purpose the genocide of all Jews and Christians in the middle east, same goals as Hamas.

Uh... You do realize Hamas accepted a two-state solution ages ago, and that Gaza actually has Christians, right? I also hope you do realize that the fact that Gazans being stateless makes Israel more of an Apartheid state. Or maybe you'd prefer "settler colonialist state subjecting Palestinians to a brutal occupation"?

Anyway I'll probably regret engaging with this steaming pile of propaganda, but I'll ask: How do you feel about this, this and this?

Uh... Uh.... Uh.....

The world doesn't have one million billion Arabs.

Edit: Brainfart.

Fine, every single president except Trump. Happy now?

I could explain but I'll just link this:

https://kbin.social/m/world@lemmy.world/t/940514/Palestinian-Fatah-group-says-Iran-trying-to-spread-chaos-in#entry-comment-6025117

Most people who were keeping up with the conflict knew this would happen. Glad to see more people waking up, but the current state of Gaza isn't in any way surprising.

Their purpose in Gaza is to terrorize the civilian population.

Make that remove/kill/starve.

Nope, I'm just a clown who doesn't actually work in tech.

Oh shit I must've said something really dumb now.

(I wasn't joking).

Okay I understand that China wants to believe they own Taiwan but this is just a dick move.

I mean you can see the source code. You'll know if anyone does something weird if you have two braincells.

Edit: Clown here move along.