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This sounds a lot less incriminating if you replace OIP with Eblit.

I think there's a tug of war going on between his Zionist handlers, his Russian handlers and more recently his Gulf handlers. The Russians called dibs first so they're currently on top.

What’s happening is that people are pointing out the bitter irony of having been told Kamala would somehow be worse than Trump, only to end up with this gestures around broadly at the country.

First, I'm not aware of "Harris will be worse than Trump" being a popular position anywhere on Lemmy. Second, nothing about this circlejerk is bitter, but even if it was: "I told you so" is fine for the first few times—I don't agree with that characterization, but that's just politics—but when we're more than five months into this shit and people's suffering is still being used to smugly make the exact same point, we've already passed the point where anything about this is productive. The election is over and at this rate American democracy is going to be dead by the next election.

Trite implies the idea is overused and devoid of meaning.

Again, there is no meaning being conveyed here. Nobody who wasn't convinced the first 100 times is going to be convinced the 101th—I am certainly not any more convinced now than when I opened this thread—so what you're left with is a circlejerk more about making oneself feel good than causing any positive change.

If that makes you uncomfortable, maybe ask why.

Because I don't like to circlejerk with the suffering of people.

Nobody’s “rubbing it in your face.”

We're going to rub this shit in your face until the US has universal health care.

-The guy I was responding to.

They’re just not letting you memory-hole the consequences of your own choices.

What a coincidence, because I think this is the consequences of your actions, but again that's not the point. We can argue whose fault Trump 2 was without the circlejerking.

something else we are sorely lacking in our government right now, thanks to idiots who abstained from voting for ’moral’ reasons.

Uh... you do realize that people who didn't vote were overwhelmingly moderates, right? The pro-Palestine left did turn out for Harris, and it did them exactly zero good.

I hate to side with Google, but intellectual property and especially patent law is stupid.

They're going to tank the progressive candidate regardless of whether or not they run as a Democrat.

True, which is why it's important to have a free hand to fight back. It's a lot harder to attack the Democratic Party as the hopelessly corrupt institution it is from the inside than from the outside. It's easier to organize as a third party than as a group of individuals in a big tent organization that wants you gone, and that way you can take more radical action and use more radical rhetoric than when you're in one way or another beholden to the party apparatus. For example a third party would be able to do things like organize protests, civil disobedience and strikes (which should be a hallmark tactic of any self-respecting leftists opposition party), attack establishment Democrats for being sellouts, run even when party sabotage tanks your primary campaign, put a whole organization's weight behind favored candidates rather than individual endorsements and play hardball when you don't get your way in government like centrists like to do so often. Of course splitting the vote under FPTP can lead to Republican victories, but with smart risk control this can be mitigated at less cost than cooperating with Democrats. Now technically most of these things can be done even as part of the Democratic Party, but they just aren't, so founding a new party with principles and organization conductive to leftist action will result in a generally more effective party apparatus. Meanwhile trying to take over the DNC certainly offers a more attractive prize, but it comes with a whole spider web's worth of strings attached.

Skipping over the part where you believe the government shouldn't need to honour the contracts they've signed with First Nations if they don't feel like it,

That's putting it too favorably. This person is arguing for the Canadian government to seize land and resources has no rightful claim to from an unconsenting indigenous people. We already have a word for this: colonialism.

pretty crazy that this came from the Liberals

Not really. Setting aside the obvious "liberalism is the precursor to fascism," this is simply modern day colonialism, and when have liberals ever opposed colonialism?

That's... An excessively optimistic interpretation, to say the least.

Apparently the Dem candidate gets NYPD bodyguards and he also hired private security.

Me too, but he has a security detail now so he should be able to manage. Hopefully.

And a party willing to not put all its resources to preventing them from winning. Mamdani's example is inspiring, and he's likely going to win, but part of this is because his opponents are all toxic. In a more serious contest this sort of party meddling can and will tank progressive candidates to the benefit of Republicans.

As I said before: I better not hear another liberal saying not to split the vote.

Liberals being hypocrites, very smerprising.

The party has been fatally broken for a while; it's mostly a question of if and when the left realizes that and gets to work.

I don't think so, no. At the pace democracy is being dismantled at in America, there is simply no possibility of a free and fair midterm. Remember that we're still not even half a year into this administration.

Are you fucking kidding me? Israel is armed, funded and protected by America, by your elected officials, using your tax money. Don't think that by saying "oh, but it's another country," you can get away from this responsibility. What next? Were the Nicaraguan death squads just another group in South America? It cannot be understated just how morally reprehensible what you just said is. The misery of hundreds of millions of people today was caused by American meddling and you're completely sweeping that under the rug. Shame on you.

Who's being more disrespectful, the people who are concerned with the health and democratic saftey of their own country or the ones using some conflict in a far off place as a substitute for personality and to virtue signal on social media as if slogans lime BLM and free Palestine do anything to help these groups of people.

Don't project your own lack of principles on me, but also: absolutely the former. At least have the honesty to confront the fact that you don't care if your government keeps supporting genocide.

Yes? What makes you think otherwise?

He is certainly not "my" guy, but that doesn't make "so glad we don't have Harris amirite???" any less callous or less trite.

This person literally just went "no u".

I'm not complaining; I'm simply making a statement of fact. Quite literally no resistance happened on June 14th.