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Can't they keep working the land and just sell their bananas somewhere else?

The idea that primaries will fix this has been demonstrated beyond doubt to be false by Bernie 2016 and 2020. You won't force the party to change by playing by its rules.

Unless you have a concrete plan to enact sweeping electoral process changes within our current system. That’s sort of the problem, our system is designed to resist change.

Fortunately Trump is helpfully taking a sledgehammer to the whole thing, so there's an opening for this kind of sweeping reform but the work for that starts now.

I mean, give them someone else to vote for first. Have you seen how liberals react when you even hint at the idea of a third party?

I'm afraid you'll need more than one term for that.

Small correction: You need to fight back for it to be a war. What the Liberals are doing is class rape.

"Competent government in this time of crisis," according to people around here.

I never said anything about racism, but I wouldn't recommend a Middle Eastern person go to a country on its way to electing literal neo-Nazis, especially when said neo-Nazis are running on being dicks to people from the Middle East. Japan, one of the more developed Southeast Asian countries or somewhere like Brazil would be better purely from a "can I live here for the next decade" perspective.

I'd stay clear of Germany and other European countries with a strong far-right unless you only intend to make a quick buck and leave. There's a very real possibility that within 10 years Germany will do the equivalent of electing Trump for a second term.

Fuckin wonder why.

And we will never think of or hear about this guy ever again.

Of the first successful 21st century fascist? No way. Give it a few decades and you'll start getting neo-MAGAs.

Okay I'll get to the point: In a situation where they and a large number of other people were credibly going to be shot at, what the fuck did you want them to do? Duty to retreat doesn't save crowds.

And the person being held accountable for the death is the guy who initially pulled the rifle, not the random citizen firing a weapon into a crowd?

I mean, yes? Pulling a gun on someone is functionally a declaration you intend to shoot them, so self-defense rules apply. Brandishing a weapon is also a criminal act, so it's pretty clear-cut. Without people running security and forcefully responding to threats a fascist will open fire into one of these one day. We have no idea whether that was the case in this instance, which is exactly the point.

Did I just see honest reporting from Jerusalem Post? What has the world come to?

I'm extrapolating from my own experience (not Palestinian, but from a country in the vicinity). "Couldn't Hitler have gotten rid of all of them and spared us the trouble" is pretty much a universal position from Morocco to Iraq, and I see no reason Palestinians—who have by far suffered the most under Israel—would be any different. This

It seems that the interest of the Zionist movement, however, is to inflate this figure [of Holocaust deaths] so that their gains will be greater. This led them to emphasize this figure [six million] in order to gain the solidarity of international public opinion with Zionism. Many scholars have debated the figure of six million and reached stunning conclusions—fixing the number of Jewish victims at only a few hundred thousand.

-Mahmoud Abbas

Seems to confirm my suspicions. This is one of the things that I find very frustrating about my people, so I'm really not keen to sweep it under the rug.

Why do you think they wouldn't make a distinction?

Because they only ever have the misfortune of interacting with Jews who want to see them dead, would be my bet. Everything an antisemite in Palestine would think about Jews is confirmed by looking at their own lives, meanwhile there's very little challenging those assumptions, so they persist.

Yes, that's intentional. I mean don't get me wrong I'm not trying to confirm Israeli propaganda, but it felt weird to say "Zionists" when thinking about a hypothetical Gazan who most likely wouldn't be making that distinction.

I wonder how many Gazan women find it frustrating that Hamas doesn't accept women. To many like this man's wife the prospect of lobbing IEDs at Jews is probably at least a little tempting.

Edit: I'm not trying to push Israeli talking points, though I guess it might seem that way; I just didn't want to portray your average Palestinian as something they're not. We don't need to gloss over Palestinian antisemitism to believe that pretty much everything Israel did to Palestinians in the last 90 years was abhorrent.

I... don't think so? I'm pretty sure they'll just be a thorn in China's side like they are in Russia's.

You can't do anything in the short term, but if you want to make sure this ends as soon as possible/doesn't happen again, you have many options. Look up BDS and see what Palestine activists near you are doing.

but getting angry won’t get you anything

Being angry is a prerequisite to the things you listed, and also, you forgot the most important item: Organize. There's simply no way America gets a happy ending without a general strike, and the work to make that possible starts now, right this second.