NobodyElse @ NobodyElse @sh.itjust.works

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I concur with your interpretation. But as for your final line, I’m not sure why this interpretation is unfortunate. We need to streamline and overhaul the immigration process for sure, but why is encouraging unregulated immigration a good thing?

The American people are finally united against a common threat. Don’t derail this with their “divide and rule” race war.

This case is a great reminder of who the police really work for. If/when the shit hits the fan, you know whose side they’ll be on.

I’m pretty sure the phrase “kneecapped by crap executions” is in the USB working groups’s charter. It’s like one of their core guiding principles.

I guess, man. We’ve been playing your realpolitik strategy game for the last few decades and here we are. My strategy didn’t involve electing Trump yet again…

The last president we had that appealed to “dreamers” was Obama, who had two terms and got some stuff accomplished. Since then, we’ve had a set of “pragmatic” choices who have outright lost or at least failed to keep the fascists out: Clinton, Biden, and now Harris. Should we stick with the “pragmatic” route in hopes that it starts making returns someday?

True, but by accepting that the chosen argument against mass deportation is that our economy depends on having illegals to exploit, we’re normalizing the situation instead of working toward a better economic reality.

I get that the argument is supposed to appeal to the right wing types in order to shift their actions away from mass deportation. My argument is that ratcheting to the right this way won’t actually resonate with them in an effective way (their blue collar ancestors also raised families on these jobs and they see the immigrants as “stealing” the jobs), but will also shift the thinking of the left wing crowd toward an expectation that the permanence of our current situation is a fait accompli.

This is not only an ineffective argument, it’s a damaging one in the long term.

I strongly disagree. This is the rightward ratchet that led us to Trump and will lead to worse. Haven’t we all seen by now how lesser-evilism is a failed strategy?

Embracing neoliberalism even harder will only embolden the abusive class and it doesn’t have the popular support.

I have family members a couple generations back who were builders and roofers and made a good living at it. They were US-born citizens and could support a family on that job. Other families could afford to afford to hire them to work on their houses.

The lie that there are “jobs that Americans won’t do” or that we can’t afford to pay Americans to do is historical revisionism and is only coming true because we keep basing every decision on how to make our ultra-wealthy abusers even richer. We can do better than this.

This is not the right argument to be making. We shouldn’t be normalizing the exploitation of a underclass of people for the enrichment of law-breaking business owners.

Hey, don’t lump gen X in with the boomers. We’re their original victims.

Oh look. Racist defends racism and doubles down.

You’ll fit right in when Trump takes over.

Wow look… casual racism

As some old guy said, “Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains.”

I didn’t abstain, but the blame doesn’t lie entirely with them. This feels like 2016 all over again, down to blaming the voters instead of the party.

People want change and are unhappy with the state of things, so the Democratic Party runs a status quo candidate against a (psychotic liar) who is making promises about change.

At least a charismatic candidate like an Obama (who doesn’t actually rock the status quo boat too much) would have rallied voters. Why is the Democratic Party so bad at this?

We’ve been spending the last generation funneling as much money to the oligarchs as possible. We’ve seen what that did/does to Russia’s capabilities and we’re somehow surprised that it works the same way here too.

It takes a lot of sugar for it to act as a preservative. Like candy levels of sugar. Below those levels it’s part of a growth medium (i.e., food).

Of course he is.

He’s not the bar we need to rate everybody against, though. Being better than Trump is not enough. Let’s hold our government to reasonable standards.

We built an entire system based on perverse incentives and then act surprised at the outcomes.

In before “But… but… whatabout Trump!”

This sort of bad faith badgering is what he does. The best strategy is to avoid engaging with him at all. He has nothing better to do with his time and will keep it up indefinitely.

Also note that he’s a mod on many of the channels he posts on and has been alleged to wield the cudgel readily.