NeuronautML @ NeuronautML @lemmy.ml

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Imagine saying in a public forum that all people of a certain religion, even though most of them do not commit acts of violence against others in such a manner and are children, must be "eradicated" like they're some kind of pest and thinking you are on the right side of the argument.

That's just indiscriminate hatred right there. It's crazy how you consistently barely ever get a positive rated comment in multiple forums yet persist without putting your hand on your consciousness and thinking, what if i am wrong.

I honestly can't understand that. Discussion boards are where opposing views come to clash. That's what creates meaningful dialogue. I am politically centrist and i find myself sometimes agreeing and disagreeing with the left and the right. What these people mean about "right wing hives" is forums where conservative opinions exist.

If we're just creating spaces that share only one political ideology, where we ban everyone disagreeing, how can we ever learn from each other ? What value is there in spaces where opinions are homogeneous and we only see people shouting opinions over the wall to the other group ? It's just a circlejerk at that point, and i have nothing against circlejerk per se, it's just that politics is very ill fitting for such types of forums.

Since the times of Greek democracies and republics, disagreement and factionalism has been a part of growth for political discourse. I believe we shouldn't shy away from that at all.

Yeah. Popular subs always had this issue but some subs were ok before all the mods left and only the ill tempered ones remained after the apk changes. The infamous "power mods" that fit the quintessential reddit mod stereotype.

I am happy with lemmy for now though. You're free to say something unpopular and it's fine. You get downvoted sometimes, but at least you're not silenced because your opinion goes against the grain.

Oh it's final this time. 5 more years of this and Israel will see their supply drying up, you know, maybe, possibly.

Oh, oh, now you done it, that's another 10000 children. You're very very close to the limit, mister. You better watch out or, you'll get slighly less aid next time! We're not kidding this time.

Reddit isn't really a place for discussion. It's a place you go to have a specific opinion or get banned. You choose the "room" with your opinions and express only those in the instructed method on the sidebar. Any dissonant opinions, facts or arguments and you're banned. So really, more like a place for agreement if anything (or disagreement of the opposite view, but only that and no other disagreement).

Mods absolutely made reddit unusable for me. I mainly lurk in the news subreddits and they're all the same. I got perma banned and instantly muted on some news subreddit i don't really recall for saying an article's title was clickbait. I got perma banned on worldnews and news for different instances of criticizing Israel.

I even tried using the platform to do other non politics things, like commenting on those am i wrong type of subreddits and got perma banned for not being supportive. Got banned in about half a dozen, despite never being there, for commenting on other subreddits.

I honestly cannot understand how people use the site without being permabanned nearly everywhere. You don't even need to be combative. They use permaban for literally any minor infringement or disagreement that turns up and then mute you if you try to discuss it. It's so frustrating. Thank goodness for Lemmy. There's a lot of weird propaganda here, but at least you're not permabanned.

Everywhere little by little is becoming like this. Youtube keyword snipes your comment and never tells you anything about it. It's hard to find places to discuss the hard subjects now. Everything is for the advertisers.

The blood of dead Palestinian children makes the desert bloom, according to Madame Von Der Genocide.

They say Hamas are terrorists because they attack innocent civilians and that may be true, but it seems that by the same metric, aren't the IDF also terrorists for attacking innocent civilians in clearly marked vehicles ?

Verily i say more, If we go by how much civilian infrastructure and casualties have been committed, one side is clearly acting more strongly within the definition of terrorist than the other.

Even if such a thing existed, which given the analysis parameters makes it far too complex for automation (like for instance, how would such a software distinguish between old deleted data still residing in empty space and a vault file hidden in empty space without a follow up analysis of the data itself. It would probably alert the user for something, but the amount of false positives would probably lead an untrained user to ignore the alerts eventually) i would guess it doesn't, but if it did, it would have to process petabytes every day, from all over the country and the system would have to be maintained, which going by government record of informatics systems, doesn't seem likely that it would be readily available for everyone that gets stopped at a border stop consistently. It's like an anti virus search, with all the false positives it comes up with, but 100 times slower, plus the transmission of the entire disk clone file, plus the cloning process itself.

Moreover the cost of maintaining such a system when 95%+ of the population doesn't have the know how to use complex data obfuscation measures and LEO rarely obtains information out of these cursory searches for arrests. On published news articles LEO always ends up using snitches, google searches or usage of the TOR network in a given area to catch criminals. Data forensics only come into play later on. Presumably, dollar for dollar, they would probably invest in what works best instead of casting such a wide net.

In sum, I'm not cleared to know such information, but i am guessing such a thing, while technologically possible, seems economically unfeasible and liable to be used only in specific cases. If i had a border security budget, i would certainly not invest in a mega server to swift through every bit of empty and occupied space of all the randomly selected people for a search that come in through the ports of entry. However i could be wrong.

I think you overvalue the skillset of border security. This may seem trivial to you but it's uncommon to hire people trained to this level of competence and put them at every point of entry. A decent cybersecurity investigator needs a big salary.

That would probably happen if you were already a suspect of something or a high profile person and they moved in resources for you. No way border security is randomly sweeping for headers and entropy, they basically just look at it with the explorer and clone it, possibly using some software to scan for known security vulnerabilities to access encrypted parts. That would be a court ordered search or a high profile crime investigation, or maybe a really really unlucky day where the expert was already there for another reason, but the rest i agree.

If your threat model makes you a high profile person, then smuggling data in hidden containers is definitely not the best solution. A non associated personal cloud server is best.

The holy and good hearted self titled people of god everyone. Their god must be so proud. All headed straight to heaven, I'm sure. It's like it says on the Torah, you should kill children and rape innocent civilians and god will love you.

Oh wait, no, it says something different. Maybe they should ask those ultra orthodox who do so much studying what it says there. To be honest I'm not sure i understand what Judaism stands for anymore myself. I thought i did, but i don't anymore.

I mean, going by the Soviet-Russian land warfare doctrine, I'm guessing they weren't safe at any point after the enlistment process. Going by what their leaders are investing in and how they are engaging the world stage, I'm guessing they weren't safe before that either.

It's not fun being Russian, i suppose.

Okay i understand your point. Thank you for explaining it in a different way.

Alright, thank you for explaining your opinion to me. You're right, while i still maintain my position that i disagree with US policy in this regard, i do recognize that a lot of those countries' actions also contributed to the current situation.

And i also recognize that when criticism arises in Lemmy, in particular from certain Lemmy instances, there is a lot of propaganda and anti American sentiment, which i also find grating. Nevertheless I'd like to clarify that I'm not anti American and i do not think America is bad. I consider this statement reductionist of the entire combined work of 330 million people, as you said, and i would like to clarify that i meant that this specific course of action in this circumstance is bad, not the country, nor the people of the US.

This criticism does not mean to disqualify the US of praise where praise is otherwise due, of course, although i would not agree that the outcomes of Israel relations were positive, but that is another matter altogether that i think would escape the purview of the criticism of CIA actions.

I apologize for expressing myself in such a black and white way and I'll try to be more mindful of reminding myself of expressing more nuance in future comments and be clearer of who and what specifically i am criticizing.

So the point is not wealth but spite ? You don't have to act in good faith to cooperate with others. Like i said, in trade, a prosperous peer is worth more and generates more wealth than an ailing one.

This is not an argument on good faith, it's self interest and selfishness. It's right there on game theory and pretty much the entire course of biological history and evolution. One might profit from destroying and seizing the resources of a peer, but in most cases that profit is inferior to quid pro quo cooperation.

To me this is just acting deranged and nonsensical. Just being belligerent for the sake of cruelty and destruction. It's more believable to me that its motivations are about projection of power and hegemony like other commenters have pointed out.

I'm not a communist. I don't agree with communism. I'm European. We hate communism. I joined ML because people said it doesn't matter what instance you join in the tutorials but mentioned one should avoid lemmy.world because it was oversaturated with reddit refugees and lemmy.ml was at the top. I never knew there was this much instance bigotry and tribalism on lemmy, but i am honestly apalled by this culture. That's the only reason. My post history is public, go read if you see anything about communism, bot propaganda activity or whatever strawmen you're building there because your arguments are insufficient.

And yes, things in the middle east would have been considerably better without CIA interventions. Americans want to wash their hands off it because what, it happened 50 years ago, when it was proven in 2020 by dna of a US green beret the US had special forces try the same in Venezuela ?

Look at Afghanistan right now, it would have been leagues better if the US hadn't been there for 20 years. Now it's under the US (previously, when known as Mujahideen) funded taliban. If you know your history, none of this should come as a surprise. But yeah, it was the headscarf and profit and America bad for sure. Everything but taking responsibility for what the US is still doing right now. I'm not anti American culture and people or even economic doctrine, I'm anti policy. Creating an implication between capitalism and instigating officially unsanctioned political destabilization of foreign governments is an intellectually lazy and dishonest argument.

What the CIA has done and is doing is wrong and brought us here, and it's acting vastly with impunity and being excused by people like you. I'm not against you. I'm against people giving the place you live in a bad name with your taxes. Acting all defensive and petulant like I'm attacking your culture personally is just silly, when you know many patriotic Americans would agree with my criticism of the actions of the CIA and military interventions overseas.

But that's a failure in and of itself. A prosperous country produces more, therefore has more goods and services to trade, therefore presents itself as a source for wealth for everyone involved than an ailing country.

This is mere short sightedness. A country that's destabilized like this requires foreign help, is often sanctioned, its people will eventually seek asilum elsewhere and it produces very little. If the point is to generate wealth, this is the opposite of what should be done.

Just to remind ourselves that this woman is paraplegic because the US had to send in the CIA to orchestrate a coup in order to remove its democratically elected president and put a fundamentalist religious nutcase Shah in power that was more friendly to the US, which like all CIA ventures, failed miserably and he ended up being overthrown by worse religious nutcases shortly after, which is regarded as a direct consequence of US involvement.

Thank you US, for our daily misery all across the world, but especially for turning the middle east into the misery it is today. We will remember it all throughout the likely war between Iran and Israel that the democratically elected governments of the US purposefully worked towards for the last 50 years, by both directly destabilizing Iran and by arming and funding Israel and the Palestinian apartheid and genocide.

I just wonder how much worse the world has to become until the US just stops "helping".

So it's 2020 and the US is still using special forces to carry out coups and arming rebel militias around the world, often to mediocre results and incredibly hard consequences, such as runaway rebel militias and an absolute mistrust of the US as a partner.

Yeah good job US. It would be worrying if the CIA & co were not so famously demonstratedly laughably incompetent. Stop orchestrating coups and arming militias. It will never work out the way you expect. It's so ridiculous. One would think that after some 50 years of failure in the middle east and south america a country would learn what not to do, but here we are. I guess some countries take a little while more to learn.