Natanael @ Natanael @slrpnk.net

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That makes your argument worse because if it was locals they wouldn't be so radically stupid

There has been Russian agents pretending to be locals since then. That doesn't make it civil war, it makes it an invasion

Remember when Russia was planning false flag attacks on their own territory so they could blame it on Ukraine before invading, but then they got called out and no such attacks happened because Russia knew the world knew and the Russians would know too who did it if Putin had his own population slaughtered again (like he did to first get elected), and then they invaded anyway without literally any justification at all?

That ml instance might as well stand for machine learning, because you have the same amount of empathy, common sense and coherence.

So the meat grinder of Russian mass murder every time they take over a city is better than fighting back?

The situation for Ukrainians in cities Russia took control over is soo soo much worse than you can imagine. Torture, killing most adult males, horrific abuses - and you say that pushing Russia back and reclaiming cities is the worse choice????????????

Replace "we" with "Russia" and you get it

Giving Russia what they want is in nobody's interest except Putin and a select few of his politicians. They'll then use the land in Ukraine to try to grab more land in Europe, notably Poland, Finland, and Moldova, through more war

That's a lot of heavy lifting from the assumptions that the missing is majority men and also that all fighting age males would be Hamas

I can't find any source showing the context of the 30-35% claim from US Intel. I can't even find a reliable source of the US estimate of how many fighters they have. The last public numbers from US intel in January had much more detail and said 20% incapacitated, not 20% dead. A jump to +30% of Hamas fighters dead now seems beyond implausible. Especially because USA has also said they don't independently track deaths in the region, they rely on local numbers.

Different Hamas officials have made different claims about their losses, and all the sources seems vague. It's been reported as 6000 - 8000 either lost (could be casualties including injured survivors not able to fight) or dead. And some of them deny the numbers entirely.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/in-gaza-authorities-lose-count-of-the-dead-779ff694

It's absolutely not the 15K that IDF claims.

Seems like you need to learn reading comprehension if you can't understand the relevance of an article about proportions in a discussions about proportionality

Even if they somehow were accurate, these numbers only cover the direct deaths from attacks, the totals you cite include all deaths from starvation and disease and more. The attacks on the hospital system and infrastructure and access to food will cause the ratio to get much much worse. Famine is indiscriminate.

About 2/3 dead are women and children according to most sources I see. 15K Hamas of 37K dead exceeds 1/3, so that can only be possible if you count numerous women and children as Hamas and valid military targets.

Supposedly real

https://bsky.app/profile/hoeijmakers.net/post/3ktipza5duc2d

proportionate attacks

There's the problem

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-said-to-believe-israel-killed-just-20-30-of-hamas-terrorists-in-gaza-fighting/

The US puts the number of Hamas men injured at between 10,500 and 11,700, many of whom could keep fighting, a US official told the newspaper.

Just FYI the total stats for injured is way way way above 35k

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68387864

You're not allowed to target civilians at all.

You can target military objectives like certain infrastructure to disable it, but you're not allowed to target civilians. The rules of war just says when civilian casualties aren't punishable. You have to take measures to ensure attacks are as precise as you can make them and with as little collateral damage as possible.

"eliminate every human because they might be an enemy" is not a valid military objective.

https://www.statista.com/chart/16516/israeli-palestinian-casualties-by-in-gaza-and-the-west-bank/

https://abuaardvark.substack.com/p/counting-casualties-in-israels-war

Israel themselves said they would accept 15 dead civilians for low level Hamas staff and 100+ for higher ranking ones.

And they overshoot hard.

IDF count every male above 16 as Hamas by default. You're gonna get a lot of false positives that way

You're mixing up things. Proportionality is a specific thing about scale. It doesn't say you're not allowed to respond to failed attacks.

You can for example evaluate the likely future harm your enemy would cause if you don't stop them and then apply the proportionality principle to that when you try to stop them. Or evaluate likely harm if somebody else attempted and succeeded with an attack you just stopped, and decide what kind of deterrence is needed based on that.

And Israel isn't just doing a shit job of it. they're not doing it at all

No passive scanning in the background though

Advertised WiFi MAC is randomized per AP by most devices these days, and Bluetooth also have equivalent privacy protocols. So unless you can get the device to connect to you then you won't see a static identifier that can be followed