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  • the big barrier, I think, is the scrutiny victims get subjected to. in the case of a "minor" sexual assault, where someone touches you inappropriately but it's a one-off, or for whatever other reason not severely traumatising, the victim might be willing to report the perpetrator and follow legal process, but for a lot of sexual crimes, our justice system forces the victim to relive their traumatic experience over and over again, and often they must face their attacker, who might be someone who has repeatedly traumatised them for years, as they give testimony.

    it's no wonder so many people don't speak up, especially when even after being tortured this way, actual justice is far from guaranteed.

  • I've found it's just an all around great policy in life to do good things for others, even if it seems like it doesn't serve your interests, because these things have a way of coming back around in unexpected ways.

    or, in the case of a sexually transmitted disease, not coming around. who's to say your next sexual partner mightn't have gone on an overseas adventure, had a wild fling with a native, and if not for this policy, caught an STI?

  • oh, i'm not denying in the slightest that interactions with imaginary people can still be racist, sexist, whatever. even if you were rating AI generated people of colour according to their looks, or probably nearly any other criteria, that could very well be racist.

    In regards to the original topic, I just think there's too much to unpack to give an easy verdict of sexist or not, at least for myself. But, i don't know, if it were an app that rewarded you for discriminating (or abusing, definitely) someone, even an entirely fictional person, that would definitely be sexist, or racist, or whatever else.

  • wouldn't it be more useful to break up its silouette, or something?

    Or even just cover it in a tarpaulin? surely they can manage to find enough material of some sort in all of russia to make a makeshift cover. It's gotta be easier than car tyres.

  • no, not at all. but the other person who was arguing me seemed to be saying that they thought I was wrong for saying an ai generated image of a black person wouldn't automatically be racist.

    this app isn't sexist because it generates images of women, it's sexist (or not, since that's what's being debated) because it lets men (people) rate them, and perhaps because it seems to generate female images that overemphasise features that are considered to appeal to the male gaze.

    personally, I'm unsure if I consider this app sexist. i would say that rating real women this way definitely is, but is it sexist to ask (your audience, or viewers) if a painting of a woman is attractive? even if it's of a fictional woman? what if the intent is to appeal to people who are axially attracted to women? there's a lot of pornographic art out there, is it sexist to make these images?

    the sexist part here, if anything, seems to be giving people the opportunity to rate the fictional women, and as i said, I think it is sexist to do that to real people, so even if this app isn't sexist per se, I'd still consider it bad if it encourages people to do that to actual women. but if people only behave that way in the context of the app, then I think it's at worst harmless and possibly even beneficial, if it gives a harmless outlet for some urge which would otherwise be inflicted on real women.

    I don't think this situation is nearly as clear cut as most people seem to be taking it to be, in either direction.

  • someone tried to shift the narrative to racism, comparing generating ai images of women to wearing blackface, asking the above poster if they thought that wasnt racist. I don't think these are in any way equivalent, or even related, so I provided an example i considered comparable, and asserted that that would not be racist.

  • is a generated image of a white person racist?
    we haven't discussed anything about the details of this theoretical image of a black person. in order for it to be racist, the very act of depicting a black individual would have to be a racist act in and of itself.

    now if the image somehow reinforces, or perhaps exemplifies, racist stereotypes, then perhaps it would be racist.