Nangijala @ Nangijala @feddit.dk

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I think regulation is better than abolishing it.

With most initiatives that have been made in good faith to avoid bad actors, it will usually hit the little guy the hardest.

In my country, for example, you can apply for grants for your business for developing your business. Great right? Wrong. The bureaucracy is so crazy that small businesses, whom this grant was aimed towards, cannot feasibly take the grant. It is too expensive for them to go through all the steps to get the money for the developmental aspect of the business that they would lose money as a business and not be able to recoup their losses. The grant money are so small and aren't allowed to be used to run the business at all that it simply isn't worth it to even try. You would essentially have to work for free for days or weeks in some cases to get this tiny portion that will now sink your company instead of developing it.

However, a big business with many employees and time and money to spare, could easily apply for the grant and get it without a sweat, despite them not needing it at all.

That is how I'd see a potential ban of ads affect the market. The big businesses who got to benefit from ads and marketing in the past will continue to do well because people know them while any and all new start ups and smaller businesses would drown and go bankrupt due to them not being allowed to make people aware of their business.

It is a bit too utopic for my taste to suggest a ban. But regulation would be a good thing in my opinion.

Oooh, I haven't seen Mad Men, but I remember it being all the rage back in the day. Sounds like it deserved all the talk it got.

It's very interesting to hear about your experiences there! We have a very toned down version of that here in Denmark too. Folks living in rural areas tend to skew right wing and people in the cities are more left. Granted, here left and right is different from America. To us, the Democrats in America would also be very much right wing. Farmers like liberals here because they fight for the farmers to have all the money all the rights and none of the responsibility that comes with it. The left wants to force farmers to take responsibility and they don't like that. Our liberal party recently changed their tune a little bit when it comes to farmers because we are literally killing our ecosystems right as we speak because of the farmers but now the farmers are crying that they don't get to ride the gravy train anymore. The good news is that younger generations of farmers seem more interested in changing for the benefit of the environment so in a few generations things might look a bit better for everybody. But currently we are dealing with a very spoiled generation og farmers who are welfare queens, possess at least 60 to 70% of the land to grow food for their pigs and then export all that meat to other countries, contributing a whopping 2% to our BNP when all is said and done. They also take the second place on the podium of the biggest polluters in Denmark, only outdone by transportation (planes, trucks, cars).

I grew up in a rural area too and was raised in a very leftwing family and that wasn't fun when my peers got old enough to understand politics, lol. People I grew up with mostly seem to have stayed in their local area and taken blue collar jobs, which is perfectly fine jobs. I have no contact with any of them and couldn't tell you how they are doing, but I spoke woth one former classmate some years ago and she told me that the people we used to know and the town is very small town, small minds vibe. Which I can totally believe. No idea how anyone votes, but wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them were on the right. And again, our version of the right wing is a lot tamer than yours. American Republicans are considered extreme and far right in my country. To an almost comical degree. We have a few extreme right wing parties but the only one that has any real traction nowadays is LA = Liberal Alliance which is basically a manosphere party. I can't stand them lol. Never could. That party is such a shit show.

I also agree with you. There are definitely some goofy opinions held by city people too. I'm in this weird position of holding many left wing views and values, but I also see city people as a bit snobbish sometimes. I have noticed in this thread alone that some Americans on this platform struggle to pin point what type of a person I am and assume I'm a right wing fascist for using the word woke to describe some things. I guess my boyfriend was right that America is currently so polarized that people like me will be whatever they hate and deem the enemy since I don't fit neatly into this black and white world view. It is very foreign and weird to me how extreme politics is in America and how much worse it has gotten in recent years because where I live, we are still able to communicate and share ideas across the political spectrum without turning it into a bloodbath. It's very weird talking with people here who seem entirely deaf to anything you say and just label you a fascist because you used a word they don't like. It's like they forget there is a world outside of the US that has its own views and impressions on what is happening around it.

It really is bad writing. One example I can come up with atm was the live action adaptation of Winx where in the first five minutes it pivots from being a show about a magical girl doing magical girl stuff with her magical girlfriends into a long-winded manifesto about mansplaining. Did it fit within the story? Nope. Did it contribute to the source material, plot and character? Nope. All it did for me was to make me shut it off immediately. Because yes. It really does feel like you're just having a good time with someone and all of a sudden they pull out the watch tower and starts asking you about jehova. I baked cookies and everything? The fuck is this? Get out of my house.

There is a right way to handle those topics, but it is always so shoehorned into things that you just end up repulsed by it. I think the new Nosferatu movie dealt with some of these themes of imposing men who don't respect a woman and her autonomy in a way that made sense both to the story, the source material and that fit well with the characters. Hell, take the old animated Hunchback of Notre Dame movie that Disney released in 96. That movie is pretty much the embodiment of social justice, but it is done correctly because it isn't preachy. It is compassionate and has a soul.

The very divisive way everything has been politicized in America and how it also bled onto the internet has eroded the ability to talk about important issues on both sides and everyone has been reduced to taking sides and being the embodiment of Bush's "you're either with us or you're against us" speech from back in the day. No nuance. No middle ground. No one is allowed to question or disagree lest they get stamped with a negative label and treated like a leper. So lame.

Dude, I love horror too. I love sharing horror media with other people. I cast my net far and wide in that category. Movies, games, books, short stories, music, podcasts, art installations, internet horror stories, ARG's, true crime etc. Name a category and I'll recommend what I know and think is good.

I think you're right. It's two authoritarian mindsets that ended up clashing in the end and it has resulted in this weird revenge power trip when coming to voting. Fucking bizarre. There are plenty things on the left in my country that I roll my eyes at and don't agree with, but just because a minority group in my country wants anarchism doesn't mean I will start voting on the right-wing parties here. Because fuck man, I don't agree with the right. I don't agree with the anarchistic activists either, but they don't represent all of the leftwing. I like that we have the values we have here. That sick people can get treatment and young people can study without being permanently crippled by debt. If some cringe activitist starts putting up posters about anarchism in my town I'll just take a picture and move on with my day. They do cool art. Even if the messages on their posters makes me embarrassed for them.

My boyfriend thinks the simple answer as to why people voted for trump is that they probably just don't care all that much about politics to really understand what they voted for. That some of them live rural enough that politics and societal problems feels far away from them and isn't something they think about in the same way that city people do. He put it in more eloquent terms and I'm extremely tired after a long day of traveling, so forgive my clunky summary of his words. He has a lot of compassion for all Americans, and I like to listen to his view points when I get ass-mad about the news and am in my emotions. Because I largely agree with him. It's just hard to be your rational reflected self when you're in chimp mode because trump or Musk or vance or some other that did another stupid thing today that will have long lasting ramifications for everyone.

I get that the term came from America but it has been used on the internet by all of us. It was taken by the far right in America to use it in a negative political context for sure, but that doesn't mean that everybody else in the rest of the world live in the US bubble. To me, woke is forced diversity usually done by big corporations who try to be hip with the kids and either failing to understand what they are doing or deliberately using diversity as a shield against criticism of their shitty product. That is all woke is to me. It has been happening in American media and it has happened in media closer to home as well as it has happened in internet culture which belongs to all of us.

I can't help that american society is so polarized that you can't even use words to describe anything anymore without being labeled by reactionary Americans online.

But if it makes you feel any better, I can switch to differentiate between forced diversity and regular diversity even though I have also been yelled at for that in the past. I am just commenting on what I'm seeing happening in media and in politics. I can't control or help what some people decide to interpret my intentions as.

First of all, you don't know me and you don't know what my political views are. You just assume that because I dislike it when diversity is cheap and superficial and all about political agendas instead of telling good stories, that I would vote for trump.

Life is a tad but more nuanced than that. When they cast someone like Sam Jackson to play Nick Fury he was still playing the character. When they cast someone like Zegler to play Snow White it could have been the same, but no. During the promotion they had her come out and talk a bunch of shit on the old movie and making her a target for online hate. They have done shit like this for awhile now. They make movies political and divisive when they didn't have to be. Sam Jackson as Nick Fury wasn't promoted as now we get to see Nick Fury as a black man. It was just Nick Fury and he was played by Sam Jackson. That is the difference.

It's okay if we disagree on the topic, but I would really appreciate you not make your biased assumptions about my character. I could make a bunch of assumptions about you too, but instead I am trying to have a discussion. I don't know you or what your opinions on this and that is. All I know about you is that you project the same divisive and simplistic mindset that was very off putting to me when people who support trump were talking about diversity in media. It is either you love all of it or you hate all of it and depending on what side I'm on, I'll judge you to be a nazi or a communist. It's so fucking stupid to think like that.

But it seems you have made up your mind on who I am and I'm apparently bad because I don't enjoy a very specific brand of corporate pandering. Disregard everything else I have said and deem me an evil trump supporter. You are being very silly.

No you're just assuming a bunch of things because I used the word woke in a negative connotation. You didn't ask for clarifications or anything, you just jumped straight to insults and assumptions instead of being inquisitive as I would have expected people were on this platform. You can scroll down in the thread and see a more indepth explanation of how I think about the subject where I replied to someone who was interested in a discussion instead of knee-jerk reactions like yours.

But nuance is hard and demands empathy which is also hard. I want to be angry-mad and stomp my feet!

Indeed. It is utterly bizarre how some people turned to Trump because their entertainment got cringe. Personally, I just decided to not watch those movies.

It's not like I hate diversity 100% and whenever it pops up in media. There is a very clear difference between when companies like Disney do it and when say an indie director does it. Moonlight is one of my favourite movies and that film is about a gay black man. But it is genuinely dealing with a deeply important subject and handles the material gracefully. And I just love Chirone so much.

That's one of many amazing ways to handle diversity in media and hell, I do it myself as a writer. I write about diverse characters because I want to see them represented but I also want to tell stories where they aren't just defined by their skin or their sex or sexuality. They are just people, you know. And that is where I hoped diversity would eventually end up after the woke wave had passed, but now we are here.

And like you said, a reactionary anti-woke wave of hallmark type movies with no diversity at all and only conservative values would grate on me just as much because just like woke, that would just be propaganda and not storytelling.

I just want god stories, man. With awesome characters being challenged and overcoming or failing and being consumed. But eh. Hollywood isn't doing their job and currently it doesn't matter because America has way bigger problems than some cringe movies no one really likes if they are honest with themselves.

But yeah... it's one thing to dislike a social trend and to vote a tyrant into power who is forcing- not only Americans, but the rest of the world to eliminate everything diversity from their companies if they want to trade with America. Like what the fuck? Where will that train end btw? Because no one can agree what is and isn't woke anymore and I'm legit sitting over here like: sooooo... if a company does a campaign for breast cancer, would that fall under diversity and DEI or? How about if they have hired handicapped people and people with a darker skintone? Are they supposed to fire them? Like where the fuck is the line?

Urgh.

Then you clearly didn't pay attention to what I wrote, but oh well, it's also just one comment and not an indepth essay about why I think and feel this or that way about something. It's not like the world and the people in it has nuance, so enjoy that black and white thinking of yours. I'm sure you will get far in life with that.

That is how my brain works a well when it comes to Americans. I know that they aren't all retarded, but I have a hard time dealing with the country and its politics and just how fucking brainwashed the population is.

I also know that if I had been american, I would have voted for Harris despite haaaaating woke shit. To me those are two very separate things. Woke shit is a social trend where one can argue for and against aspects of it and I expected it to find its middle ground with time once the most obnoxious people and companies got over themselves.

But! Ain't no fucking way I would ever have voted republican as their politics, no matter how much they have catered to my hateboner for woke bs, is fundamentally against pretty much all of my values. Even the democrats are too right wing for me.

I hate America for how it treats its population. I hate that there isn't free education and healthcare (to the "noThinG iS fREe" crowd = kindly shut up and go jangle your keys in the corner while the adults are talking) and I cannot fathom the work culture over there. To me it is borderline slavery.

To me those issues outweighs my annoyances with Hollywood's stubborn decision to pump out cringe woke propaganda and call it movies for ten-ish years. I am legit embarrassed for all the dumbasses who voted for trump because of woke entertainment. There is a level of stupidity there that I can't even begin to unpack.

Oh same. I stayed up all night during the 2016 election and when Trump won I was laughing hysterically because I couldn't believe what I was seeing and hearing.

My sweet, lovely and amazing boyfriend told me during this election that Harris would win because the Americans wouldn't put up with the abortion stuff and I just told him that I thought he was overestimating the American population. He's always thought my hatred for America was too unnuanced and unfair, but I mean... I have been right so far. Which isn't really the win I was hoping for. I was actually hoping to be proven wrong at least once in my fucking lifetime, but eh.

Disclaimer: no, I don't hate all American people. I know most Americans are chill. I just despise the me-me-me culture and how the system is built to screw the little guy over and reward the über rich 1%. The people deserve better. So so much better.

For real. To me, Trump is the embodiment of the American stereotype. I know Americans think that the rest of the world stereotype them as being fat, but no no no. The behavior Trump exhibits is the American stereotype on crack. I am pretty anti America (sorry, not sorry) and have been since Bush, but even I could not have come up with a more cartoony and offensive American stereotype than the Trump persona.

It is very funny. And honestly, good for him, but it is a bit funny considering his voter base.

This is why I laugh when anyone claims that church and government is separate in America. You literally swear on the Bible before taking office. Honestly, to me, America has always had a similar air of religious fundamentalism as some middle eastern countries. I have always seen them as extreme af. The whole abortion debacle is totally about religious values and religious control. No one can convince me otherwise.

US politics is a fucking comedy. My colleague pulled up the picture of Trump standing with that goofy tariff board where trump is reading all the countries and how many percentages they would be tariffed. My colleague was absolutely cackling at the picture and kept saying "the supposedly richest country in the world and they announce this shit that will affect all of us on a piece of fucking cardboard????!!" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

I didn't say I would never switch to Linux, just not right now. As for my company, switching to Linux or another operating system + changing emails and other subscription services isn't something you just do over a weekend. That stuff takes time.

I have made that fast and easy changes by now because they cost me nothing and with some of the bigger changes, it takes some more thorough conversations and some research before decisions can be made. I'm not like trump. I don't snap my fingers and make spur of the moment changes without considering the longterm effects. Especially not when it comes to my livelihood.

My best friend is visiting Denmark currently to hang out with me for a week and she wanted mcd last night so we drove there and have never seen our mcd this empty before. We were literally the only ones there. I'm so proud of my fellow Danes.

For me, I'm mostly focused on replacing digital services as I believe they are way more important than groceries, but I shop for the star too and avoid american products more actively anyways. I dunno how big of an effect it will have in that regard, but with the tech stuff, I think that is where we can hit them the hardest and protect ourselves the most, so that is where I put in an effort. Went back to buying dvds and blurays and cut off all streaming services except for filmstriben, but that doesn't count. I also left Meta and reddit and have deleted my youtube app and cut significantly down on my youtube "spending" if you can call it that. It feels great.

The next step will be to change my personal email and that is going to be a bigger undertaking that I don't look forward to. Urgh. Eventually I'll have to look into Linux too or something like that despite being a tech illiterate idiot.

We had the first discussion in my company yesterday about how our company is tied up in American tech and what we should do about it, if anything in the near future. A similar discussion has begun about the entire Danish digital system which is also mired in American tech. What do we do about that? It'll be a very long and very slow transition and I don't even know if the alternatives for that beast of a system exists yet.

All I can say is that I'm kind of excited about the future. Worried too. Very. But excited nonetheless. I'm a pessimistic optimist.

I would but deftones in horny tbh. Especially on the Queen of the Damned soundtrack. Everyone was horny on that soundtrack.