Nalivai @ Nalivai @discuss.tchncs.de

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You need to find, pressure, back up, help and signalboost elected politicians who are willing to challenge that. Or civilians going the route of lawsuits. Or Luigy some motherfucker or two, but that's more of a desperate option.

I don't think any technology can be successfuly kept secret in the long term

It's safe when infrastructure exists, people used to snow, and everyone has winter tires.

That's a very interesting theory that for some reason circulates around.
It has nothing to do with reality, both because in the final roaster there were both Bloomberg and Buttigeg, who got 3 million and a million votes respectively, and who aren't exactly paragons of the leftist values, and also because more people voted for Biden than for every other candidate combined, he got 4 million votes more than Bernie, Warren, Bloomberg, and Buttigeg combined.
I don't know where did you got all those theories, but they once again, seem to not correlate with reality.

You probably think that if you attack me that means your arguments hold more weight, but you are sorely mistaken on that. I am slightly tired of you not actually engaging with what I'm writing, so let me state it last time, and I would like you to read it this time.
The fact that Bernie wasn't able to win a popular vote in the democratic primaries twice doesn't support the idea that he will be better at the general elections. Whatever opposition he faced, whatever they did to him in your opinion, will be tenfold in the generals. The opposition there will be stronger and richer. The notion that everyone secretly agrees with him and only evil they are keeping him from getting into the office is a very comforting one, but none of the numbers support it. Unfortunately.

Did they personally brake the legs of all the leftist voters so they don't vote for their preferred candidate? Or did they just run a campaign against him and all the passionate Bernie voters just decided to believe their campaign and not vote for him?
I don't see an explanation here that supports that "Bernie would won the election" narrative.
And I don't think it's a good thing, I totally agree that he would be the best president US ever saw and he absolutely, unequivocally was the best candidate with the best ideas. I just don't believe american voting population wants what's best for them, there is much to be done to undone centuries of capitalist propaganda. But this work doesn't start with escaping into fantasy world, it stops there.

It would be a nice story, in theory, but unfortunately in reality in 2020 finals there also were such bastions of leftist values like Bloomberg and Buttigieg. Which still would not matter because Biden got more votes than all the other candidates combined.
Which once again brings us to the question, where are all the Bernie voters that are suppose to bring his victory? Do they don't know how to vote, do they too apathetic to do that or do they just not exist?

The whole thing about popular vote (I repeat, popular vote) is that whatever you think about the process of actually choosing candidate, and whatever trickery the DNC did, it does not affect how the popular vote went. There could be something to your words if there was a popular vote swinging one way and electoral picking swinging the other, but it wasn't the case. All the millions people who in your mind would vote for Bernie didn't show up to do it twice. Either that because they don't vote and don't know how democracy works, or because they don't exist I don't know, and I leave it up to you to decide which is worse.

Well, Bernie participated in two primaries, and in both cases he demonstrably, objectively lost the popular vote, which means that people did not vote for him.
Which is exactly what I am talking about, your idea sounds good to you, but you base it on your vibes, and numbers tell the different story apparently.

What funny is everyone knows for a fact what lesson they should've learned, and if you ask 3 people they will give you 5 contradicting answers, every single one of which will be the most important strategy advice that stupid dems don't see. It will usually can be boiled into "They need to focus on this specific issue and only on it, to the detriment of all the others".

That's definitionally not what the word means. But you probably believe that you can predict the streaks in slot machines so I am pretty sure I'm wasting my time here

Not understanding the difference between the game of skill and the game of chance is exactly the grasp on reality that I expected from you based on this thread.

Which is why so many day traders end up going bankrupt.

Well yeah, so do most of the gamblers, but some miraculously don't, but we don't believe that playing rouletts is a skill now. Incidentally, moat of the people who consistently gamble but don't go bankrupt are people who have more money than it's possible to lose in one sitting.
Playing stonks follows exactly the same logic.

Do you also believe they have egg prices dial? Oh, by the way, you got your wish, the current administration will be removed from the office, if a genocide will not stop in February, will you eat your words and admit that you were wrong or not?

I am starting to believe that Americans trully believe there is a mechanism that starts and stops genocides and it's located within reach of the American president. This notion is so fucking wild it's impossible to believe y'all really totally thinking it, but it is jingoistic enough for me to start believing y'all are bathsit insane enough for it.

It's such a good thing there is an alternative that really, really great at stopping genocides. We are so happy that now those evil genocidal maniacs will be out of the office and there will be no genocides forever. They will finally stop pressing that genocide button that they have, which controls genocides.

Believe it or not, for the amount of power they have, they are actually doing pretty good. We probably want them to ditch checks and balances and do good dictatorship for a moment to fix centuries of racist bullshit that permiated the US, but I am pretty sure it's not realistic. I wish it wasn't so, but the US is very, very racist country, and it reflects.

It's always important to thinglk about things in context and perspective. When I say best administration, I don't compare it to the administrations of my hopes and dreams, that's not useful at all. I compare it to what was before and what's the possible alternatives.
Oligarchs want you to lose perspective, hope, and stop doing actionable things. They want you to believe that unless the administration is doing luxury gay space communism, they are as bad as anything else and shouldn't be supported. Don't fall for it.

You just never looked into what they're really doing, and for some reason media isn't keen on reporting all the good proposals and legislations they were doing, I wonder why.
This administration was the best one in centuries, both in terms of legislation and in terms of administrative work. The only question they aren't good on is Palestine, and incidentally it's the only thing that media suddenly cares about, I wonder why(2).

Ha, you fucking wish