MudMan @ MudMan @kbin.social

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I mean, it's fun that a techbro thought "isn't the TNG combadge cool?" and actually went and made it, but this was a Youtube video, not a product launch.

This guy gesticulates with one hand for a couple of seconds, then grabs the microphone with that hand and then gesticulates the exact same way with the other hand and just keeps doing that for the entire twelve minute video.

Once I noticed it became almost impossible to keep paying attention to what he was saying.

Sorry, I had responded but also missed the "Steam Deck" qualifier. To be clear, the poster you're responding to is absolutely right in general terms, but performance will be an issue for 360 and probably PS3 on the Deck.

I have two notes on that piece:

1. Holy crap, Jim Spanfeller is still alive and employed? I had genuinely not considered that posibility in ages.
2. My instinct was that "shaped the way the Internet talks about women" is a very anglocentric thing to say, but it's actually not wrong. It just says more about cultural imperialism than feminism.

I meant specifically Asus' eGPU environment. It does require plugging it in, using a physical lock, then switching over, hoping it doesn't crash, maybe rebooting if it gets temperamental...

It's honestly far more of a hassle than just having two setups. I'm writing this after playing a bunch of Spider-Man on a handheld while lying in bed. I get the appeal, but at the end of the day desktop PCs are better at desktop PC things.

It's the extra polo shirt between the t-shirt and the dress shirt. You could get away with three layers, but what are you trying to hide with the extra polo shirt? Do you just want to keep your options open?

I know it's not a new observation, but the fact that everybody has pointed out it's weird and he keeps doing it just doubles down on the weirdness.

Then you either expressed it confusingly or you aren't understanding my reply. Because it sure sounded like you were saying modern PC game design tropes were console-specific back in the early 2000s and that's why you don't remember grindy games existing back then.

Asus is trying to do something like that, including compatibility with the Ally, and I frankly don't think it's great.

Decent software and less flaky integration would make things better, but honestly I don't think the value proposition is there. Then again, I also don't understand people trying to use PC handhelds as desktop PCs, either, so what do I know.

Yeah, no, we're not disagreeing here. Absolutely go spend a decade sorting out a single form in a banking software thing. It is objectively the better choice.

All I'm saying is the few people who get into it non-vocationally are mostly there for the vibes.

That's a you problem, not a game problem, though.

Sure, if you don't have time to binge play anymore it's harder to get into genres that depend on following a narrative for tens of hours. Have you tried going back to Daggerfall or Morrowind? Because those weren't bite-sized then, either, you just had five hours after school to sit down and play.

Which is fine. It's perfectly acceptable to say that you no longer have time or energy to get into long-winded stuff and prefer faster paced games. I agree. But that's not because modern games are poorly designed.

Hell, these days I can boot up a PS5 and be right where I left off in 20 seconds. When I was a kid loading up a game was a 15 minute proposition before the damn thing even rendered anything on-screen.

Oh, like PC games in 2001 weren't just like that as well. This isn't a platform thing, this is a development cost vs budget vs technology interplay.

So yeah, PC games were just like that, too, except back then the console ports were much, much worse than they are now, so that part also sucked.

It depends. There are some people here and there. But also, you don't need to be a hardcore gamer to do a LOT of the technical work in gaming. Mostly you just need to be really good at coding and somehow prefer decent snacks and a lax dress code to money and job stability.

The "new zeldas"? Where were you when they hid a bunch of quality of life upgrades behind an actual hundred skulltulas?

I think sometimes people mistake a game surfacing a list of content for practical reasons with forcing you to touch every little thing inside the game. In any case, Zelda games have always had a progress screen like that. They practicaly pioneered the concept.

It's definitely a matter of taste, but you still get a lot of performance per watt on the Deck between 9 and 12, so I typically prefer to crank it up a notch and aim for 35-40fps instead.

Which option is preferable probably depends on how sensitive you are to low fps vs fan noise, so there's no right answer.

Seriously, at that point why not just build a PC?

What they need to do is release a widely compatible official SteamOS, as they promised they would do. There's plenty of affordable hardware you could use for that purpose at that point.

Even the stick daughterboards are redesigned and the heat sink has different anchor points. None of the internals of these are cross-compatible.

The shell is identical, though, so it seems that sleeves, skins, screen protectors, cases and so on all carry over.

If you don't own a PC handheld and want one this is not a bad time to jump in at all, especially if you're on a budget.

I don't expect you'll see a refresh on this thing again for a couple of years at least. Given how accessible the prices for the Deck are I don't know if waiting that long makes sense. I mean, there will likely be a Switch 2 at some point in that interval, so if you only want the one handheld that may be something to wait-and-see for, but handheld PCs are PCs, there's always gonna be a big new thing to look forward to.

So many of the responses to this (and the original video) boil down to "me like good games that I like, no like bad games I don't like".

I promise there were boring, repetitive, grindy games all through gaming history. This isn't a "modern gaming" thing.

Just this year we got Spider-Man 2, Pikmin 4, Cities Skylines II, Super Mario Wonder, Hi-Fi Rush... The guy even praises Baldur's Gate in this.

It's just people being weird and conservative and nostalgic. "Game that doesn't make me feel like a child" = "modern game".