MrHand @ MrHand @lemmy.world

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how so? care to elaborate?

note: feds have real time access to my digital activity. every time i make claims like this on this space, they appear like rats and insubstantially say "you need help, take your meds, blah blah" but never care to get to specific as to why my claims are unreasonable.

What does "intrusive monitoring" entail?

You are conflating two things -- my question to Lemmy.World re if they were deleting my content from a place of soy censorship and whether feds trail me online (they having access to my digital activity in real time) to invalidate any claims I make about honeypot incel forums by calling me (rather emptily) "crazy." I know the latter is true. I was in interested in the other inquiry. Nice try.

haha not comparable in the slightest. Dear readers: I am subject to "intrusive monitoring." That means feds trail me online too and then call me crazy when I air my complaints. Just look how empty their accusations are.

More details: I identified as an “involuntarily celibate” male and sought support from people in my circumstance. I found a forum called incels.is. The people posting there purported to be men in my circumstance. I believed it and then shared opinions about my plight and the dynamics of the larger sexual marketplace (re how it’s become polygynous.) Soon after – to my shock and horror – they “took the mask off” and told me that they – the people I was posting alongside – were in fact fed agents. You see, they had in fact shutdown real incel spaces years prior and replaced them with ones operated by DHS because they had deemed incels – a class of males who are only the result of emergent polygyny – as “domestic extremists.” The feds then informed me – by revealing to me personal details about my life and my day to day activity (in own apartment no less) that I was now subject to intrusive monitoring and surveillance. When I step outside people from the creepily named “fusion centers” trail me. So in essence I am in an open-air prison without having committed a crime. Moreover, the feds over at incels.is themselves encourage extremist rhetoric which shapes the public image of the incel class. In short they are generating their own work by censoring incels across web and setting up incel forums where they (feds) larp as extremist incels. They set a trap for incelish men seeking support from their own kind. This treatment of incels is motivated by politics because after Trump’s victory in 2016 the neolib establishment went hard after any MAGA-adjacent spaces. In 2015, incels were among the first to be ecstatic about Trump. But does that mean they should be politically repressed, silenced, and treated as domestic terrorists?

I identified as an "involuntarily celibate" male and sought support from people in my circumstance. I found a forum called incels.is. The people posting there purported to be men in my circumstance. I believed it and then shared opinions about my plight and the dynamics of the larger sexual marketplace (re how it's become polygynous.) Soon after -- to my shock and horror -- they "took the mask off" and told me that they -- the people I was posting alongside -- were in fact fed agents. You see, they had in fact shutdown real incel spaces years prior and replaced them with ones operated by DHS because they had deemed incels -- a class of males who are only the result of emergent polygyny -- as "domestic extremists." The feds then informed me -- by revealing to me personal details about my life and my day to day activity (in own apartment no less) that I was now subject to intrusive monitoring and surveillance. When I step outside people from the creepily named "fusion centers" trail me. So in essence I am in an open-air prison without having committed a crime. Moreover, the feds over at incels.is themselves encourage extremist rhetoric which shapes the public image of the incel class. In short they are generating their own work by censoring incels across web and setting up incel forums where they (feds) larp as extremist incels. They set a trap for incelish men seeking support from their own kind. This treatment of incels is motivated by politics because after Trump's victory in 2016 the neolib establishment went hard after any MAGA-adjacent spaces. In 2015, incels were among the first to be ecstatic about Trump. But does that mean they should be politically repressed, silenced, and treated as domestic terrorists?

empty snark is empty. what is it that I've said is crazy?

translation: "I don't like you. Therefore, you deserve to have your civil liberties violated."

When I posted on the web forum incels.is, to my surprise and shock I learned that it was a DHS operation. The feds there themselves encourage extremist rhetoric. Just imagine how unfair this is. They haven't publicly announced that they are censoring incels but have in fact done so. They then set up honeypot forums where feds larp as incels and feed the public image of incels as one of extremism and violence. A user ends up there thinking this is what incel culture is and then gets subject to being put on a watchlist. It's the government itself calling for censorship and restrictions on free speech, something I know all too well given my incels.is (run by DHS) experience.

What makes you think they aren't going to come after that too? The whole point is for elites to retain narrative control and bring the whole internet their grip so Donald Trump types never get elected again.

We live in the era of brute internet censorship. For example, I identify with incels and all their spaces were "shut down." DHS set up honeypot forums in their place. Yet when incels were being out and out censored across the web, no one said anything. The excuse was "fighting domestic extremism." They'll come after the rest of the internet until "they" can always have narrative control.

Should people be preventively put in open-air prisons (by subjecting them to intrusive monitoring and letting them know it in order to take credit for "prevention") when they haven't done anything wrong? Is it right that DHS has the authority to essentially "jail" people in this way without trial?

lol just a description of the sexual landscape and it's polygynous turn is misogyny. and then you run to the government to ban spaces were those ideas are discussed. i bet you'd call him misogynist too

okay, it doesn't sense to you, i'm just a yelping loon. please stop interacting with me

I've actually said not much that is directly misogynistic. But if I say "the sexual marketplace has taken a polygynous turn," that's deemed misogyny. Good article but that advice has went unheeded especially in the United States. Fact of the matter is that incels are POLITICALLY loathed and a politicized justice department has been set loose on them.

lmao

I need sincere help in spreading the fact that incels.is -- and their network of related forums -- are run by DHS.

I'm not having paranoid delusions. This was my experience: I posted on the web forum incels.is -- run by DHS -- and have since been subject to intrusive monitoring which escalated into direct fed harassment of me in various ways. Part of this "intrusive monitoring" entails monitoring of my communications and online activity. Hence it's not out of the realm of possibility that some of the people here eager to label my claims as paranoid/delusional are feds...

Bro they broke into my apartment and replaced my prozac with super-depression inducing crap. I took a few of the pills and fell into super depression. Then they started teasing me on reddit "does he notice? does he notice?" etc etc. The pills were colored differently. Not sure what their purpose was. Plus if I see a therapist they'll be privy to what I say (under the 9/11 bill they can pull your records.)

For sure, but you can drive someone to insanity by depriving them of sleep. I say I am subject to intrusive monitoring. I realize that if I try to express this to normal everyday people, I will come off as schizo. On top of that to be going around sleepless -- a mental zombie -- is going to make me look crazier, and make everyone around me think I'm a loon. Maybe this leaves a "trail" of mental-health issue history that, should I snap in public or something, can be used to commit me.