MrBubbles96 @ MrBubbles96 @lemmy.ml

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Still doesn't disprove my point that Windows bricking itself is a thing that happens:

https://www.minitool.com/backup-tips/bricked-computer.html

Qoute: "PC bricked issue often occurs, especially you have installed a Windows 10 update. When searching for “bricked computer” in Google, there are many forums on this topic...Well then, how can you fix the bricked computer in Windows 10/8/7 if the brick is caused by the operating system itself (soft brick)?"

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/windows-updates-keep-bricking-my-laptop/7eb5ac2d-fff0-41a7-b008-c59946be4333

https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/windows-10-pc-bricked-overnight-please-help.3599394/

"I think its important to point out that Windows has been forcing updates on me that just bluescreen me. Once i blue screen it resets the system to its original config and it boots normally. When asked to schedule a time for the update, I chose 4/27. Sure enough after that, cant boot once."

https://www.reddit.com/r/ZephyrusG14/comments/pguu58/recent_windows_11_update_bricked_my_g14/

First comment: "This is related to Windows 11, everyone is facing the same issue right now. It seems to be due to an expiring certificate."

And we can keep going. Microsoft can screw up and ship an update that bricks your hardware. It's happened before, and will continue to happen again. (And just so we're clear: Ubuntu, Red Hat or other Linux maintainers, and even Apple with their products, are not exempt from this either. They're also human and can mess up. But we're not talking about Linux or Mac, we're talking about Windows sometimes bricking itself, so they're irrelevant to this conversation) Why you're so adamant on denying it ever happens on Windows even tho evidence is a search away and instead paint it as solely a Linux problem is beyond me

It's not what I think tho, it's what's written by others....unless I'm somehow imagining actual search results of people detailing their experiences of their machine, yes. bricking themselves. That, or Google results and Microsoft's own forum posts are lying. Along with several other threads, videos, and examples. Which i very much douvt is the case here.

It's a man-made thing. No man-made thing is infallible. They can and sometimes do break or mess up. That shouldn't be hard to understand, i should think

What's unintuitive about sudo apt install wine?

In the interest of fairness, maybe the first time you ever do it, yeah, I can see it as someone completely new to this thinking it's black magic (heck, I've used Linux as my daily OS for a while and some of the things users are able to do with their skills, i describe as black magic lol). After a while tho, it becomes no big deal, and the user might even prefer doing it that way because it's quicker (IMO) to que up a buncha packages to install one after the other vs hunting them all down and installing one by one. But yeah, point is, it can look unintuitive if you're new to it...but once you're used to seeing it, it's like "ah, ok, it's just another way to do things"

And there also nothing really stopping you from installing stuff the ol Windows way, if that's how you prefer to do things. Just open your package manager and look up what ya need. Or even open your browser and go to the offical site, they might also have official packages to download.

Either way is valid and up to the user's prefrences. Never understood why both sides sometimes make it sound as if there's only one way to install stuff on Linux (not saying you're doing that here specifically, to be clear, but I've seen others do so. The other person kinda is tho).

never had Windows brick on me

Congrats, if that's true. You're the exception, not the rule. Windows has bricked itself on several users with a couple of updates before tho (and I know this because one of those is exactly when i learned how much of a removed it can be to actually install on your system), and a quick basic search proves that yeah, this isn't some rare thing, the OS tends to do that sometimes to the frustration of many.

So we're basically saying the same thing about the subject then. Wonderful. Dunno how you got me saying "It's not going to affect the life of the person viewing it unless said person lets it" to mean "it applies to people who damned themselves down this road willing and people who has an actual problem with it" in the context of OP's question

Now, "Ungenerous interpretation of what [you] said" where, exactly?

You asked "does it include compulsive gamblers?"

And I answered No, because I answered the OP's question from a general perspective--not asking as someone who already has a compulsive urge to masturbate/drink/gamble/whathaveyou. The first one can be affected either positively or negatively by something, if they let the habit control them vs the other way around, while the other's already affected in a negative way, so i didn't bother bringing them up. (Not even touching on the fact that it should be obvious, or well, at least it is to me, you CANNOT advise or help an addict in the same way you're going to advise a person whose curious/a bit green on something they wanna try)

Wait, was it in my anecdote about me deing a drunk? If that's the case, then there was a failure to communicate on my part and I apologize. I didn't mean to imply that you said "all porn bad", i said it to point out how distiling something that to a basic category like "all alcohol is bad" without the nuance of "it's less the thing and more the different people interacting with the thing" to be....well, bad, and reductive because context matters.

Eh. It be like that sometimes. Re-reading everything again, i was pretty clear in what I said in both the reply to the OP and comments back to them. They and anyone else wanting to take it as something contrary to what I actually wrote down (which itself isn't rocket science) is on them, really.

OP didn't imply thqt he was asking about it at an unhealthy level, so i responded to that.

The alcholic is already in a habit. What i put was not written with the idea of an addict in mind, simply that the act (porn) is not some evil, rotten thing that should be avoided like the plague, but should instead be treated as a neutral thing and viewed with moderation--should a normal, non-addicted person decide to do so at all.

Also, that you used that specific example for your comment, considering I actually did put the bottle down a while ago because yeah, boiling it down, it pretty much was destroying my relationships and not doing my already weak ass immune system any favors, made me crack a smile NGL

You're speaking about a compulsive habit at that point, so no. That's a completely different animal than what i meant.

I wrote the above along the lines of "Is the action bad in of itself? No. CAN it turn into a bad habit and hurt a person? Yes. All depends on the person interacting with it"

Like, as a former (recovering? Don't drink anymore, besides, at best, 1 bottle at gatherings, if even that, and sometimes during hangouts) alcoholic, yeah I'll call out when companies and other people try to enable someone with a drinking problem to keep going...but I'm also not gonna go around and say "all alcoholic beverages bad" because I recklessly abused something that is known to hurt the body if used without restraint and paid for it. Maybe it's a poor comparison since porn can't physically hurt you the way alcohol can (tho it can mentally warp a person in some ways, especially if they're younger/have nobody to teach them properly about sexual education) but that's the only example I can give and i hope i got my point across.

As someone else put it perfectly in another comment: it's just porn. It's not going to affect the life of the person viewing it unless said person lets it.

IMO, tho, as with most things things in life, just doing as the Greeks did is a good rule of thumb: you doing this in moderation? you're good.

Yes. The question was "why Arch?", but specifically the question was asked because Arch demands some level of competance from the user when it comes to fixing and maintaing their own system by nature of it being a rolling release. So yeah, expierence is relevant here.

That's cool and all, but this person is (I'm assuming) new-ish to Linux and hasn't developed their opinion on "what distro/DE/way of doing things works for me" and "what do I want/don't want in my system", which IMO is extremely important because...it's their system, and what works for you (Gnome + Arch) might not jive well with em. That's the beauty of Linux: it's up to the user to do as they will. Maybe let them get their feet wet first before throwing something that needs to be babysat and occasionally maintained at them as a better option, just saying.

Also, that Arch has "the superior package management system" is an opinion, not a hard fact.

Could be just them sharing the wiki with em (which is a great companion to ANY Linux Distro. Arch or non-Arch, a lotta the stuff there can be very helpful), but...feel like it's a bit early to be doing that IMO. "Start em young" and all that, sure, but also let them learn, fail, and get into messes themselves first, ya know

1. welcome to Linux. yer a Penguin now, Harry! Yeah, I remember the whole "kid in a candy shop" feeling I got when I first started lol
2. hope you have better luck with your Dell than i did. Treated mine like a baby, and suddenly? The shell around the screen and board cracked. Ya think repairing it would be easy/cheap, but alas, somehow....(not trying scare you just, becareful with it, cheap or no)

IDK, if both my very-much-not-so tech savy siblings, mother, and even an idiot like myself can all pick up and use it with very few, if any, hiccups, then "user expierence" on Linux is...

Not hard. Or, well, in general as well. The more I hear people go "Learning Linux is hard" and hear them out, the more I've come to realize they're actually trying to say "Unlearning Windows is hard". Which is absolutely true, considering 95% of people use Windows basically out the womb...and then they keep using it/put up with it no matter what unless you're like one of my old professors who didn't "need windows" for his work (and used Mac all the way), or like me and several others who got tired of Windows constantly messing up on me--or being invasive of your privacy, bloated, all of the above. Take your pick--enough where I just said "you know what, no. I have options besides basically throwing dice at the wall with this. They can't be that bad." (spoiler alert: they weren't bad at all).

And again, unless you're throwing yourself off the Linux deep end from second one and trying to build the system from scratch or compile Gentoo by yourself, learning it isn't this grueling, impossible task. Plus there's free resourses that can make it even simpler for you if you want to more than learn as you go. There's growing pains, yeah, but no different than learning anything new in life

Gotta disagree. Even with following a handful Linux groups on here, there's several other topics and discussions that quickly dominate my feed, from games, to music, books and comics, to pets doing adorable things, to anime, and TTRPG stuff (...and Star Trek. Now that's something i can't seem to escape on The Fediverse and makes me feel just a tiny bit left out because I'm not really into lol). Then again, it's up to you what you see since the user is in full control of what they allow or block in thier feed.

So curate until you barely see any Linux, if that's what ya fancy.

If you don't mind me asking, was it because of the vanilla look, the customization being based on extensions (which may or may be updated for a while when a new version releases--if at all), or was it the Gnome philosophy of "One Window per workspace"?

Just curious really, I'm more of an XFCE and KDE user myself, and i can see the appeal of Gnome (and I'm NGL, it looks nice IMHO), but yeah...not a big fan of extensions breaking every version update and the "throw unused Windows in a new workspace" thing

I kinda getcha. Design-wise, you could get a very close copy (but I don't think 1:1. Never tried it tbf), but if we take the workflow into account, yeah it won't be 100% the same (also, QT apps can be a turnoff depending on the person)

I mean, can't you just make KDE plasma have the Gnome look, or...basically any look you want?

As strange as the idea of regulations needing to come to the rescue might be to some, that's a decent way for it to go....seriously, so many problems we deal with on the daily just need a bit of regulations for them to not be as out of control as they are (because, as you said, a LOT of people are stupid/ignorant. Or are taking advantage of said people). Now, this just needs to get as bad as lootboxes--which, IMO, it's practically there, but maybe it needs to get worse, god forbid--for a legislator to look this way.

You'd have to convince the diehards, casuals, and especially the ones that are willing (regardless of being able to) to spend money on whatever the company throws their way of this. Way, waaaay easier said than done, unfortunately.

Can't speak for everyone else, but due to the company's track record, i didn't even look at Halo Infinite's direction since it was announced. Then again, as soon as I heard the multiplayer was Free to Play and seperate from the campaign, yeah...not surprised they pulled something like this.